Re: Re[2]: Big Whoops

Jared,

I'm running 7.3.4 And when I have users on when I have to down the database, I do a select machine from v$session where username ='<whatever>'... and I get the machine they are running from. So what's the problem?????

Rachel

>From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: Big Whoops
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:23:52 -0800
>
>
>Oops. I didn't scroll down and read the
>entire message. Sorry about that.
>
>What I had in mind, but didn't say, ( the SEND
>key is faster than the brain ) was in regards
>to version 7 databases.
>
>I used to pull the machine name out of MTS
>configuration info, but we don't use MTS here.
>
>Any idea how to do this in 7.x databases?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jared
>
>P.S. Why are we doing this on a holiday?
>
>On Mon, 29 May 2000, Ari D Kaplan wrote:
>
> > I believe the example shows how to embed the machine name.
> >
> > SELECT 'set sqlprompt '''|| d.name ||'@' ||
> > substr(s.machine,1,decode (instr(s.machine,'.'), 0,
>length(s.machine),
> > instr(s.machine,'.') - 1)) ||
> > '-SQL> '''
> > FROM V$SESSION s, V$DATABASE D
> > WHERE s.SID=1;
> >
> > The output will look like:
> > set sqlprompt 'PHIS_at_survlpd-SQL> '
> >
> >
> > In the above example, "survlpd" is the machine name.
> >
> > -Ari
> > www.arikaplan.com
> > On Mon, 29 May 2000, Jared Still wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In that case, maybe you could provide various methods
> > > of embedding the machine name in the SQL prompt as well.
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > > On Sat, 27 May 2000, Ari D Kaplan wrote:
> > >
> > > > I do the SQL prompt change as well... for the listers benefit I am
> > > > providing part of my upcoming EOUG speech (how many of you really
>are
> > > > coming?) that explains how to do this...
> > > >
> > > > -Ari
> > > > www.arikaplan.com
> > > >
> > > > When you first get your Oracle CD-ROM, install and create your
>database,
> > > > and go to SQL*Plus, you are greeted with the familiar "SQL>" prompt.
>What
> > > > many Oracle professionals do not know is that this prompt can be
>changed.
> > > > It could be useful to have the prompt give the time, the username,
>which
> > > > machine you are on, or any other information particular to an
>application.
> > > > The prompt is most easily changed by modifying the global or local
>login
> > > > scripts. The global login script, which is the
> > > > $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/glogin.sql file, gets run when anyone
>connects
> > > > to the database. It is here that you can put in SQL to control what
> > > > happens when a user invokes SQL*Plus. Common commands are formatting
>of
> > > > columns, setting PAGESIZE, putting in messages, changing optimizer
>goals,
> > > > or changing the prompt. For example:
> > > > set heading off
> > > > select 'Logged in as ' || username from user_users;
> > > > set heading on
> > > > will print "Logged in as SCOTT" when you connect as SCOTT.
> > > > If there is a file in $ORACLE_PATH called "login.sql", it is
>referred to
> > > > as a local login script. This will override the global login script.
>If
> > > > you use local or global login scripts, you can change the SQL
>prompt.
> > > > SELECT 'set sqlprompt '''|| d.name ||'@' ||
> > > > substr(s.machine,1,decode (instr(s.machine,'.'), 0,
>length(s.machine),
> > > > instr(s.machine,'.') - 1)) ||
> > > > '-SQL> '''
> > > > FROM V$SESSION s, V$DATABASE D
> > > > WHERE s.SID=1;
> > > > The output will look like:
> > > > set sqlprompt 'PHIS_at_survlpd-SQL> '
> > > > This will use the "SET SQLPROMPT" command to be the instance name
>and the
> > > > server name. For this to work, you will need to spool the result of
>the
> > > > SELECT clause to a file, and then run the file. Putting it all
>together:
> > > > set heading off
> > > > set prompt off
> > > > spool make_prompt.sql
> > > > SELECT 'set sqlprompt '''|| d.name ||'@' ||
> > > > substr(s.machine,1,decode (instr(s.machine,'.'), 0,
>length(s.machine),
> > > > instr(s.machine,'.') - 1)) ||
> > > > '-SQL> '''
> > > > FROM V$SESSION s, V$DATABASE D
> > > > WHERE s.SID=1;
> > > > spool off
> > > > @make_prompt.sql
> > > > set heading on
> > > > set feedback on
> > > > You will now have a nice prompt each time you connect. With multiple
> > > > windows open on your computer, this is a good way to keep track of
>which
> > > > database each window is connect to.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 27 May 2000, Jared Still wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Since then I color-code my windows (light red on black for
>production
> > > > > > windows)...
> > > > >
> > > > > This seems to work for some people. A fellow DBA here at
> > > > > Blue Cross does this.
> > > > >
> > > > > It never seemed to work for me. Embedding the database name
> > > > > in the SQL prompt seems to work best, at least for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jared
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve, Rachel - you are not alone...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ari
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 25 May 2000, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > me....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > logged into two terminals, one was production, one was test.
>In both the
> > > > > > > tablespaces had the same names. So I think I am going to drop
>the two
> > > > > > > tablespaces in test, so I can recreate from production.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do alter tablespace <xxx> offline;
> > > > > > > drop tablespace <xxx> including contents;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and then scream as I realize I dropped a production
>tablespace. I go into my
> > > > > > > user's office and tell him he can kill me later, this is what
>I did, how
> > > > > > > does he want me to proceed to fix it. fortunately the
>production one was
> > > > > > > static data, and could be recreated. we do so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > he then tells me I have used up all my screw-ups for the next
>5 years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > everyone does stupid stuff. the trick is to admit it and know
>how to recover
> > > > > > > from it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rachel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Steve Boyd" <pimaco_oracle_at_hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Re[2]: Big Whoops
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 07:38:38 -0800
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I'd like to post a question for everyone on the list.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >How many of you have ever dropped a table, or done something
>like that in
> > > > > > > >the wrong database(thinking you were connected to say the
>test DB), and
> > > > > > > >hosed production?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Steve Boyd
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> > > > > > > >>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > > > > >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > > > >>Subject: Re[2]: Big Whoops
> > > > > > > >>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:40:46 -0800
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>A couple of years ago I was trying to create a new instance
>on one of our
> > > > > > > >>Unix
> > > > > > > >>boxes to support an additional manufacturing line. Since
>the first
> > > > > > > >>instance was
> > > > > > > >>well tuned, I copied the init.ora file to a new name & did
>the little
> > > > > > > >>editing
> > > > > > > >>that I believed necessary, like a new db_name. What I
>forgot was the
> > > > > > > >>control_file line. You can guess what happen next, yes the
>control files
> > > > > > > >>got
> > > > > > > >>trashed and the original instance terminated with errors.
>We had to
> > > > > > > >>recover
> > > > > > > >>that one from tape since I hadn't backed up the control
>files to trace for
> > > > > > > >>some
> > > > > > > >>time, but I do now at every shutdown. We live & learn from
>our mistakes,
> > > > > > > >>hopefully NOT on a production server.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>BTW: My advice to any new DBA out there is that when an
>emergency hits
> > > > > > > >>you,
> > > > > > > >>or
> > > > > > > >>an AW SH%$. First step in the process is to step back, take
>a deep breath
> > > > > > > >>&
> > > > > > > >>calm down. Adrenaline and instant reaction are your worst
>enemies.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Dick Goulet
> > > > > > > >>Senior Oracle DBA
> > > > > > > >>Vicor Corporation
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>____________________Reply Separator____________________
> > > > > > > >>Author: "Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>Date: 5/24/00 6:16 PM
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Lisa,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>You have backups? Restore from backup. Otherwise.....
>recreate and import
> > > > > > > >>is
> > > > > > > >>the way to go.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>I gotta say, the fact that you did this, figured out how to
>fix it, and
> > > > > > > >>didn't freak out about it, would impress me MUCH more on an
>interview than
> > > > > > > >>the fact that you have your OCP :)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Rachel
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com
> > > > > > > >> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > > > > >> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > > > > >> >Subject: Big Whoops
> > > > > > > >> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:44:29 -0800
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >This is by far the funniest thing I have ever done. I
>began running the
> > > > > > > >> >create
> > > > > > > >> >database scripts (ON A TEST MACHINE) when the $ORACLE_SID
>was set to a
> > > > > > > >> >currently
> > > > > > > >> >running database. It's now completely and totally hosed.
>I'm just
> > > > > > > >> >wondering if
> > > > > > > >> >there is any possible way of recovering from this. I am
>just recreating
> > > > > > > >> >the
> > > > > > > >> >database and reimporting the data - it's not a big deal,
>but for future
> > > > > > > >> >reference, I wonder if this really does mean THE END OF
>THE DATABASE AS
> > > > > > > >>WE
> > > > > > > >> >KNOW
> > > > > > > >> >IT. My gut feel is YES.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >I just can't stop laughing. I finish my OCP exams and
>completely TRASH
> > > > > > > >>a
> > > > > > > >> >large
> > > > > > > >> >database in the same day (and dump pink ice cream on my
>white sweater
> > > > > > > >> >simultaneously)! Like Kirti said, Who *WANTS* to be a
>DBA? Are you out
> > > > > > > >>of
> > > > > > > >> >your
> > > > > > > >> >mind? you better be!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >--
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> > > > > > > >> >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Jared Still
> > > > > Certified Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist ;-)
> > > > > Regence BlueCross BlueShield of Oregon
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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