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You can use Hot Backups to Clone a Database

From: MacGregor, Ian A. <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:07:27 -0700
Message-Id: <10508.106785@fatcity.com>


So why not do it with hot backups? Copy the "hot" backups of the datafiles to the test machine, and the necessary archived redo logs available. On the database to be cloned
backup the control file to trace as you normally would. Edit this file appropriately to
reflect the new instance name and directory structure. You want to mount, but not open the
"new" database, reset the logs, and then recover the database using backup controlfile until cancel. You will be prompted for the redo logs to apply. You'll have to rename them, but that's no big thing. You can apply logs until your clone is nearly up to date with the one it is copied from. Once this is done open the database and reset the logs.

The methodology was not taken from anywhere, but was developed when someone failed to do the cold cloning, and the production database could not be shutdown. The issuing of reset logs
before the recover command seems a mistake, but is necessary. Just make sure you don't open the database until the redo logs are applied.

Good luck.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_slac.stanford.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Ron L. [mailto:rlsmith_at_kmg.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:06 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re[2]: Big Whoops

Question for everyone. We frequently do cold database copies from production to test, qual, etc... We have 5 hour window. If I took a backup (3 hours) before I did the copy, there would not be enough time remaining to do the copy. Yet if I make a mistake on the copy scripts I could easily lose a datafile. The question is, do I demand time to do it right and make a backup before I start or do I continue taking the chance that I won't make a mistake?

Ron Smith
Database Administration
rlsmith_at_kmg.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

One time I delete all the online redo files on a production system. And the database crash in front of eyes in minutes.....

I have so many X windows open up, connecting to different server with the same color and the database SID happened to be the same on the test and production.... :<

Now I made all my X windows for different sessions all in different colors! Like a rainbow flying on my desktop!

Winnie :)

"Steve Boyd" <pimaco_oracle_at_hotmail.com> on 05/25/2000 08:38:37 AM

Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> cc: (bcc: Winnie Liu/HQ/ISC)

I'd like to post a question for everyone on the list.

How many of you have ever dropped a table, or done something like that in the wrong database(thinking you were connected to say the test DB), and hosed production?

Steve Boyd

>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re[2]: Big Whoops
>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 06:40:46 -0800
>
>A couple of years ago I was trying to create a new instance on one of our
>Unix
>boxes to support an additional manufacturing line. Since the first
>instance was
>well tuned, I copied the init.ora file to a new name & did the little
>editing
>that I believed necessary, like a new db_name. What I forgot was the
>control_file line. You can guess what happen next, yes the control files
>got
>trashed and the original instance terminated with errors. We had to
>recover
>that one from tape since I hadn't backed up the control files to trace for
>some
>time, but I do now at every shutdown. We live & learn from our mistakes,
>hopefully NOT on a production server.
>
>
>BTW: My advice to any new DBA out there is that when an emergency hits
you,
>or
>an AW SH%$. First step in the process is to step back, take a deep breath
>&
>calm down. Adrenaline and instant reaction are your worst enemies.
>
>Dick Goulet
>Senior Oracle DBA
>Vicor Corporation
>
>____________________Reply Separator____________________
>Author: "Rachel Carmichael" <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
>Date: 5/24/00 6:16 PM
>
>Lisa,
>
>You have backups? Restore from backup. Otherwise..... recreate and import
>is
>the way to go.
>
>I gotta say, the fact that you did this, figured out how to fix it, and
>didn't freak out about it, would impress me MUCH more on an interview than
>the fact that you have your OCP :)
>
>Rachel
>
>
> >From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Big Whoops
> >Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:44:29 -0800
> >
> >This is by far the funniest thing I have ever done. I began running the
> >create
> >database scripts (ON A TEST MACHINE) when the $ORACLE_SID was set to a
> >currently
> >running database. It's now completely and totally hosed. I'm just
> >wondering if
> >there is any possible way of recovering from this. I am just recreating
> >the
> >database and reimporting the data - it's not a big deal, but for future
> >reference, I wonder if this really does mean THE END OF THE DATABASE AS
>WE
> >KNOW
> >IT. My gut feel is YES.
> >
> >I just can't stop laughing. I finish my OCP exams and completely TRASH
a
> >large
> >database in the same day (and dump pink ice cream on my white sweater
> >simultaneously)! Like Kirti said, Who *WANTS* to be a DBA? Are you out
>of
> >your
> >mind? you better be!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
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