RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO

        I totally agree with you Charles.

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Charles Wolfe [SMTP:cwolfe_at_ix.netcom.com]
> Enviado el: viernes 19 de mayo de 2000 12:44
> Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Asunto: Re: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO
>
> This has to be one of the most arrogant, self-important posts I have seen
> recently on any of the lists. You sound as if you think a DBA is some
> superior form of life, and that everyone else is fortunate that we deign
> to
> even acknowledge their existence.
>
> Get off your high horse. No matter how highly we DBAs may think of
> ourselves, when it comes down to it, a DBA, no matter how talented, is yet
> another skilled technician in the IT field. What we do isn't
> astrophysics,
> and it isn't cardio-thoracic surgery. Does your accountant consider you
> stupid when you ask him or her a question regarding a new tax law? Does
> your doctor consider you stupid when you ask him or her a question
> regarding
> the care you are receiving? Does your garage mechanic consider you
> stupid
> when you ask a question regarding a problem with your car?
>
> Users and developers are not stupid, and to presume that they are simply
> because they are unfamiliar with concepts you deal with on a daily basis
> is
> the height of hubris.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:28 AM
>
>
> I agree. The job of the DBA seems to be everything that everyone else
> either doesn't want to do or doesn't have the ability to do. We get the
> wonderful task of figuring out all of the things too hard for everyone
> else
> to figure out.
>
> But, I would much rather support developers than users. Users ask too
> many
> stupid questions.
>
> Chris Griffith
> OCP DBA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:15 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> There seems to be differing views here.
>
> I would suggest that this is a very typical jd for many production DBA's.
> I
> would go on to suggest that many DBA's are in deed jack of all trades (and
> master of some, I would hope). I have been in roles where I sat on my DBA
> throne and dictated to developers on how to optimise their code and I have
> been in roles where I did everything from install and configure hardware
> to
> wipe users bums. Your typical DBA does what's needed to get the job done.
>
> And I would take a week supporting uses over a day supporting developers
> anytime!
>
> Phil West - Impex IT ltd
> Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA Services
>
> [ all opinions, unless otherwise stated, are personal
> and subject to change without reason or warning ! ]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I've been an Oracle DBA for 1.5 years. For the last six months I've worked
> as a Java developer, in addition to supporting Oracle databases (all
> development). I'm at a crossroads here, trying to decide on a career path.
> Is the job description below pretty typical for DBA work? The idea of
> providing help desk support and end user support is enough to make me
> vomit.
> That is just my personal preference.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
> Currently, Great-West Life has a full-time permanent position available in
> the
> Financial Services Systems Division working on the Technical
> Infrastructure
> team
> (comprised of System Administrators, Database Administrators and System
> Programmers). This challenging and team-oriented environment supports our
> rapidly growing Financial Services Division.
>
> Helping to set long-term technical direction for the division, this
> individual
> will be responsible for:
>
> · Providing technical support on UNIX-based distributed computing
> platforms
> (specifically Sun/Solaris systems) for Oracle RDBMS and related products
> (e.g.,
> SQL*Plus, Pro*C, PL/SQL, Developer/2000 specifically Forms 4.5,
> Designer/2000,
> Browser).
> · Perform 1st and 2nd Tier Help Desk and end-user support. In this
> capacity,
> will analyze and resolve technical issues relating to:
> - In-house applications
> - 3rd party software
> - Database performance, capacity, recovery
> - Hardware and associated peripherals (some)
> · The installation and management of Oracle related products.
> · Acting as team lead/coordinator of major project initiatives related to
> the
> DBA team.
> · Document all operations procedures related to team.
> · Some on-call time required (no more than 1/4 of year as primary DBA).
> M
> ust have previous database administration experience, specifically with
> Oracle
> v7.x and v8.x, preferably on Sun Solaris environments. Needs to be able
> tom
> ultitask and deal with a high-level of interruptions. Strong
> interpersonal
> and
> communication skills a requirement to succeed in this position. Other
> desirable
> experience:
>
> · Sun Servers, Solaris operating system.
> · EcoTools, Veritas Volume Manager, Veritas File System, Veritas Quick
> I/O.
> · UNIX Tools & Utilities, (C/Bourne/Korn shell, Perl, tar, cpio, etc.),
> NFS,
> NIS, TCP/IP.
> · Intranet, Internet & Extranet, and WEB server environments.
> · Project Management.
> · System Security.
> · Server Capacity Planning and Performance Tuning.
> · X-terminals, Workstations, PCs.
> · Multi-threaded server experience.
>
> This position requires a degree in Computer Science or Information
> Systems,
> or
> equivalent applicable work experience.
>
> Please send resume to :
>
> Alan Bowden
> Great-West Life & Annuity Insurance Company
> 8515 E. Orchard Rd., MS-5T2
> Englewood, CO 80111
> FAX: (303) 737-4850
> EMAIL: alan.bowden_at_gwl.com
>
>
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