Re: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO

Chuck,

Now, tell us how you REALLY feel<G>

Yea, bottom line is, my developers don't know the database... but then I can't program in Java. Everyone does what they do best. And I truly believe in "an educated user is our best customer" (to paraphrase the commercial)... I explain, probably in more detail than they want to know, anything they ask

Rachel

>From: "Charles Wolfe" <cwolfe_at_ix.netcom.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO
>Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:44:12 -0800
>
>This has to be one of the most arrogant, self-important posts I have seen
>recently on any of the lists. You sound as if you think a DBA is some
>superior form of life, and that everyone else is fortunate that we deign to
>even acknowledge their existence.
>
>Get off your high horse. No matter how highly we DBAs may think of
>ourselves, when it comes down to it, a DBA, no matter how talented, is yet
>another skilled technician in the IT field. What we do isn't astrophysics,
>and it isn't cardio-thoracic surgery. Does your accountant consider you
>stupid when you ask him or her a question regarding a new tax law? Does
>your doctor consider you stupid when you ask him or her a question
>regarding
>the care you are receiving? Does your garage mechanic consider you stupid
>when you ask a question regarding a problem with your car?
>
>Users and developers are not stupid, and to presume that they are simply
>because they are unfamiliar with concepts you deal with on a daily basis is
>the height of hubris.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:28 AM
>
>
>I agree. The job of the DBA seems to be everything that everyone else
>either doesn't want to do or doesn't have the ability to do. We get the
>wonderful task of figuring out all of the things too hard for everyone else
>to figure out.
>
>But, I would much rather support developers than users. Users ask too many
>stupid questions.
>
>Chris Griffith
>OCP DBA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:15 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>There seems to be differing views here.
>
>I would suggest that this is a very typical jd for many production DBA's.
>I
>would go on to suggest that many DBA's are in deed jack of all trades (and
>master of some, I would hope). I have been in roles where I sat on my DBA
>throne and dictated to developers on how to optimise their code and I have
>been in roles where I did everything from install and configure hardware to
>wipe users bums. Your typical DBA does what's needed to get the job done.
>
>And I would take a week supporting uses over a day supporting developers
>anytime!
>
>Phil West - Impex IT ltd
>Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA Services
>
>[ all opinions, unless otherwise stated, are personal
>and subject to change without reason or warning ! ]
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:40 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>I've been an Oracle DBA for 1.5 years. For the last six months I've worked
>as a Java developer, in addition to supporting Oracle databases (all
>development). I'm at a crossroads here, trying to decide on a career path.
>Is the job description below pretty typical for DBA work? The idea of
>providing help desk support and end user support is enough to make me
>vomit.
>That is just my personal preference.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:04 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>Currently, Great-West Life has a full-time permanent position available in
>the
>Financial Services Systems Division working on the Technical Infrastructure
>team
>(comprised of System Administrators, Database Administrators and System
>Programmers). This challenging and team-oriented environment supports our
>rapidly growing Financial Services Division.
>
>Helping to set long-term technical direction for the division, this
>individual
>will be responsible for:
>
>· Providing technical support on UNIX-based distributed computing platforms
>(specifically Sun/Solaris systems) for Oracle RDBMS and related products
>(e.g.,
>SQL*Plus, Pro*C, PL/SQL, Developer/2000 specifically Forms 4.5,
>Designer/2000,
>Browser).
>· Perform 1st and 2nd Tier Help Desk and end-user support. In this
>capacity,
>will analyze and resolve technical issues relating to:
> - In-house applications
> - 3rd party software
> - Database performance, capacity, recovery
> - Hardware and associated peripherals (some)
>· The installation and management of Oracle related products.
>· Acting as team lead/coordinator of major project initiatives related to
>the
>DBA team.
>· Document all operations procedures related to team.
>· Some on-call time required (no more than 1/4 of year as primary DBA).
>M
> ust have previous database administration experience, specifically with
>Oracle
>v7.x and v8.x, preferably on Sun Solaris environments. Needs to be able
>tom
> ultitask and deal with a high-level of interruptions. Strong
>interpersonal
>and
>communication skills a requirement to succeed in this position. Other
>desirable
>experience:
>
>· Sun Servers, Solaris operating system.
>· EcoTools, Veritas Volume Manager, Veritas File System, Veritas Quick I/O.
>· UNIX Tools & Utilities, (C/Bourne/Korn shell, Perl, tar, cpio, etc.),
>NFS,
>NIS, TCP/IP.
>· Intranet, Internet & Extranet, and WEB server environments.
>· Project Management.
>· System Security.
>· Server Capacity Planning and Performance Tuning.
>· X-terminals, Workstations, PCs.
>· Multi-threaded server experience.
>
>This position requires a degree in Computer Science or Information Systems,
>or
>equivalent applicable work experience.
>
>Please send resume to :
>
> Alan Bowden
>Great-West Life & Annuity Insurance Company
> 8515 E. Orchard Rd., MS-5T2
> Englewood, CO 80111
> FAX: (303) 737-4850
> EMAIL: alan.bowden_at_gwl.com
>
>
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