RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO

We should be more understanding of developers. Just because they don't understand some of the concepts that a DBA would doesn't make them stupid. They do their job, we do ours. We are the database experts, so they come to us with database questions. That's part of our job--helping developers with database issues. I get kind of tired of DBAs picking on developers. True, there are some dense developers out there, but there are some dense DBAs out there too.

Why can't we all just get along?

Steve Boyd

>From: Bruce Page <bpage_at_kimball.com>
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>Subject: RE: Oracle DBA opening in Englewood, CO
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 09:44:59 -0800
>
>Let me guess... you are the only developer in your shop or they all have
>more experience than you.
>
>I have received as many stupid questions from developers as I have from end
>users. And end users do not write code to go against my databases.
>
>
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>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:29 AM
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>
>I agree. The job of the DBA seems to be everything that everyone else
>either doesn't want to do or doesn't have the ability to do. We get the
>wonderful task of figuring out all of the things too hard for everyone else
>to figure out.
>
>But, I would much rather support developers than users. Users ask too many
>stupid questions.
>
>Chris Griffith
>OCP DBA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 6:15 AM
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>
>There seems to be differing views here.
>
>I would suggest that this is a very typical jd for many production DBA's.
>I
>would go on to suggest that many DBA's are in deed jack of all trades (and
>master of some, I would hope). I have been in roles where I sat on my DBA
>throne and dictated to developers on how to optimise their code and I have
>been in roles where I did everything from install and configure hardware to
>wipe users bums. Your typical DBA does what's needed to get the job done.
>
>And I would take a week supporting uses over a day supporting developers
>anytime!
>
>Phil West - Impex IT ltd
>Unix Sys Admin and Oracle Financials DBA Services
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 3:40 PM
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>
>I've been an Oracle DBA for 1.5 years. For the last six months I've worked
>as a Java developer, in addition to supporting Oracle databases (all
>development). I'm at a crossroads here, trying to decide on a career path.
>Is the job description below pretty typical for DBA work? The idea of
>providing help desk support and end user support is enough to make me
>vomit.
>That is just my personal preference.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:04 PM
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>
>
>Currently, Great-West Life has a full-time permanent position available in
>the
>Financial Services Systems Division working on the Technical Infrastructure
>team
>(comprised of System Administrators, Database Administrators and System
>Programmers). This challenging and team-oriented environment supports our
>rapidly growing Financial Services Division.
>
>Helping to set long-term technical direction for the division, this
>individual
>will be responsible for:
>
>7 Providing technical support on UNIX-based distributed computing platforms
>(specifically Sun/Solaris systems) for Oracle RDBMS and related products
>(e.g.,
>SQL*Plus, Pro*C, PL/SQL, Developer/2000 specifically Forms 4.5,
>Designer/2000,
>Browser).
>7 Perform 1st and 2nd Tier Help Desk and end-user support. In this
>capacity,
>will analyze and resolve technical issues relating to:
> - In-house applications
> - 3rd party software
> - Database performance, capacity, recovery
> - Hardware and associated peripherals (some)
>7 The installation and management of Oracle related products.
>7 Acting as team lead/coordinator of major project initiatives related to
>the
>DBA team.
>7 Document all operations procedures related to team.
>7 Some on-call time required (no more than 1/4 of year as primary DBA).
>M
> ust have previous database administration experience, specifically with
>Oracle
>v7.x and v8.x, preferably on Sun Solaris environments. Needs to be able
>tom
> ultitask and deal with a high-level of interruptions. Strong
>interpersonal
>and
>communication skills a requirement to succeed in this position. Other
>desirable
>experience:
>
>7 Sun Servers, Solaris operating system.
>7 EcoTools, Veritas Volume Manager, Veritas File System, Veritas Quick I/O.
>7 UNIX Tools & Utilities, (C/Bourne/Korn shell, Perl, tar, cpio, etc.),
>NFS,
>NIS, TCP/IP.
>7 Intranet, Internet & Extranet, and WEB server environments.
>7 Project Management.
>7 System Security.
>7 Server Capacity Planning and Performance Tuning.
>7 X-terminals, Workstations, PCs.
>7 Multi-threaded server experience.
>
>This position requires a degree in Computer Science or Information Systems,
>or
>equivalent applicable work experience.
>
>Please send resume to :
>
> Alan Bowden
>Great-West Life & Annuity Insurance Company
> 8515 E. Orchard Rd., MS-5T2
> Englewood, CO 80111
> FAX: (303) 737-4850
> EMAIL: alan.bowden_at_gwl.com
>
>
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