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From: Mark A Singer <masinger_at_CORP.ROCKWELL.COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:36:38 PST
Message-Id: <9601182204.AA26765@alice.jcc.com>

Hi Francisco and Bambi,

I am aware of the other vendors. My concern really has to do with cost. Some vendors want to charge $100 per seat. That could add up quickly into the hundred of thousands. I also realize that these vendors may also give discounts.

I am really looking for other solutions, such as changing our applications to use Oracle Objects for OLE or some other means. I am also looking for into a three-tiered approach to minimize seat liscensing. Have you or any one else looked at this.

There is one more level of complication to all of this. 99% of our workstations are Windows 3.1. I expect we will move to Window's 95 before the end of the year. Thus, we may be looking at a Window's 95 solution.

Thanks for your comments ...................Mark
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Sent by:Francisco Franco <ffranco_at_INTERLOG.COM> Hi Bambi and Mark,

As one who has just gone through this with Oracle, I tend to agree with Bambi. Oracle will not cut support for ODBC, but on the other hand they do make it very easy not to Oracle for support on the product. When talking
to our sales rep, she quoted me a support cost for ODBC of about 10 times the product cost of ODBC. She did not say that they wouldn't support it, they just made it cost so much that it didn't make sence to go ahead and get the product from Oracle. Actually, uur sales rep more or less told us that we should probably contact Intersolv directly rather than going through Oracle.

That's what we are doing. If you have access to Microsoft's WWW page, they have a document at their site that lists a lot of ODBC vendors, their specialty and how to contact them for more information on their products. I don't remember the name of the WWW page, but if you use their search tool, I'm sure that it will find that document for you. That same document
can also be accessed through their FAXBACK number.

At 11:56 AM 18/01/96 EST, you wrote:
>Mark --
>
>In a case like this, it sounds like a timing issue (Oracle's cutting
>off support before your vendor comes up to speed), and you are likely
>not to be the only one in a bind. If I were you, I'd call Oracle,
>explain the situation to them, and ask them if they'd support you in
>your environment until the other vendor certified their release on
>the latest technology. Oracle is reasonable (especially if you're
>a "good customer" or the number of customers is "sufficient", and,
>no I don't know the definitions of either of those terms).
>
>HTH.
>Bambi.
>______________________________ Reply Separator

>
>As most of you may be aware, Oracle is dropping support of their ODBC
>product. Also, I believe support for SQL*NET V1 will no loger be
supported
>by Oracle after June of this year. Lastly, to move to Oracle 7.3, you
must
>be on SQL*NET V2. This may not be a problem for your organization, but
it
>is for us.
>
><snip>
>
>

Francisco Franco                             Aerocomp Consulting Inc
Systems Administrator/Oracle DBA             2555 Thomas St, Unit #8
ffranco_at_interlog.com                         Mississauga, Ont
Tel:  (905) 813-7148                         L5M 5P6

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