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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:00:12 +0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Dennis Chan, 7888278" <CCDCHAN_at_CPHKVX.BITNET> Organization: City Polytechnic of Hong Kong Subject: Connecting PowerBuilder3.0 to Oracle 6.0 (on VAX VMS)
Hi, all oracle experts!
I have encountered an error when connecting client tool Powerbuilder Enterprise
3.0 to
ORACLE 6.0 on VAX VMS.
The error is ORA-09241 Message not found, Product=RDBMS, facility=ORA, Language =NULL
After going thru Oracle server manual, it recommends me to consult the following
manuals:
1 Oracle 7 Server for MS-DOS Installation and Users' Guide
(to be announced, part number unknown)
2 Oracle 7 Server for OS/2 Installation and Users' Guide
(part number 90908-70)
If you have such manuals, would please send the contents about the error code & message to me at the earliest time convenient to you.
If you are professional from the Oracle Corp. / Powerbuilder, please leave a contact point to me so that I can seek your advice.
My email address is ccdchan_at_cphkvx.cphk.hk
Thank you very much.
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:27:24 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Teresa A Larson <larson_at_SLED.GSFC.NASA.GOV> Subject: Re: NanoSeconds
> Is there a way to get nano seconds from oracle ? The to_date format
> goes only as far as seconds. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Last time I checked on this (last summer), I was trying to get miliseconds and the answer was "can't do". I have not checked to see if Oracle 7 has changed the date datatype to store time differently. But pre-6 definitely only goes to seconds.
Teresa Larson
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Hi,
We are running oracle 6.0.37.3.1 under Solaris 2.3. The pmon process seems to die randomly with two ORA-600 errors. Oracle support said that this may be caused by the archiver getting stuck but we have turned archiving off and it is still happening. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Greg Luft Phone: (403) 234-6238Chevron Canada Resources
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:01:09 DST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Lex Sijtsma <lex_at_PYTHON.KONBIB.NL> Subject: Re: NanoSeconds
Just out of curiosity. Where do you need the nanoseconds for?
>---------------------- Information from the mail header ----------------------- >Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> >Poster: Teresa A Larson <larson_at_SLED.GSFC.NASA.GOV> >Subject: Re: NanoSeconds >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Is there a way to get nano seconds from oracle ? The to_date format >> goes only as far as seconds. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > >Last time I checked on this (last summer), I was trying to get >miliseconds and the answer was "can't do". I have not checked to see >if Oracle 7 has changed the date datatype to store time differently. >But pre-6 definitely only goes to seconds. > >>
> Teresa Larson
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:18:21 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: dnagaraj <dnagaraj_at_HRFOCUS.ATTMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: NanoSeconds
Hi Lex,
To answer your curiosity, we wanted to use the nano seconds in the "update time" field with transactions being sent to update a DB2 database. The "update time" was part of the index. I believe DB2 is capable of generating nano/micro seconds, which accompany transactions from DB2 to Oracle.
However, we are now going to generate a unique sequence number in lieu of nano seconds.
Regards,
Dilip
>- Lex -
>---------------------- Information from the mail header ----------------------- >Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> >Poster: Teresa A Larson <larson_at_SLED.GSFC.NASA.GOV> >Subject: Re: NanoSeconds >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Is there a way to get nano seconds from oracle ? The to_date format >> goes only as far as seconds. Any input would be greatly appreciated. > >Last time I checked on this (last summer), I was trying to get >miliseconds and the answer was "can't do". I have not checked to see >if Oracle 7 has changed the date datatype to store time differently. >But pre-6 definitely only goes to seconds. > >
> Teresa Larson
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I had a similar need, except I did not need to allow the user to pick the starting number. I had to start the sequencing over the first of every month. Gaps were not allowed. My solution was the same as one you suggested. I simply forced a commit after the user imputed each record. In my case I could get away with it since the number of inserts in a days time was less than 20 and they seldom occurred at the same time. Thus there was no real performance hit for doing it this way. One problem for you to consider is with multiple users. Using a when-new-record-instance trigger (FORMS 4 equivalent of on-new-record) two users could start new records about the same time. Your trigger would select the same sequence number for both. The first to commit would win and the slower user would get an error (assuming you prevent duplicate values as a constraint in the database). I suppose in this case you could always trap the error and bump the number by one and try again. In my case, I was able to use the pre-insert trigger. This closes the window for dups, especially since I have a limited number of users.
Eric Jenkins - jenkie_at_jlsc.wpafb.af.mil
Computer Science Corp.
Joint Logistics System Center
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
Hi
I need to develop a trigger that will generate a one up number (sequence number) for a particular field. By default the sequence should start from 001 but it can be changed by the user for some objects to start from a different sequence.
I tried using ON-NEW-RECORD trigger but unfortunately, it generates duplicates unless the records are committed immediately. Another option was to use the Pre-Insert trigger, but this does not allow the user to change the sequence.
Here is the trigger
declare
cursor max_seq is
select nvl(max(numb),0) +1
from <user>.<tablename>
where <record_type> = :<record_type>;
begin
open cursor max_seq;
fetch max_seq into :<fieldname>
close cursor max_seq;
end;
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HELP!
TIA
Ashok
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:59:43 -0600
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From: Doug Faughnan <dfaughn%comagic_at_COMAGIC.MNET.USWEST.COM>
Subject: trace files
Just ran into a bizarre situation with the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/log/*.trc files on our HP9867 server. I set the init.ora TIMED_STATISTICS parameter to TRUE and restarted the database so that a user could do some tuning in sqlplus. Problem is that the user cannot read any of the .trc files as the permissions are set to -rw-rw----. I verified that the oracle user has a umask of u=rw,g=rw,o=rw, however the .trc files are still created with no read access for 'other'. Have not found any answers in the doc; perhaps one of you UNIX DBAs could help. Thanks.
Doug Faughnan
US WEST Communications, Denver CO
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:13:27 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Norm Russell <nrussell_at_ETC.BC.CA> Subject: Error Installing Oracle ORA-12154
We are having some problems installing Oracle on our server. We are trying a 'complete software/database fresh install' (using the defaults) of Oracle 7.0.16 from CD on our Sparc 1000 running Solaris 2.3.
This is an extract from the error log:
. . .
SQL*DBA: Release 7.0.16.4.0 - Production on Tue Aug 30 16:29:14 1994
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
DBA-00314: unable to attach to default host ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name
File /u01/home/dba/oracle/admin/ERIN/create/crdbERIN.lst opened Tue Aug 30
ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name DBA-00302: not connected to a database ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database nameFile /u01/home/dba/oracle/admin/ERIN/create/crdbERIN.lst closed Tue Aug 30 SQL*DBA complete.
. . .
As you can see, the database name can not be resolved.
We have created the 'tnsnames.ora' file and believe it is in the correct place and follows the right syntax.
Still it does not work. Has anybody else experienced this and maybe have some ideas for us?
Norm
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:20:58 -0600
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From: Donna Johnson <DFJOHNSON_at_UTMEM1.BITNET>
Subject: Calling stored procedures/functions from Forms3.0
Hello,
I am working in VAX/VMS 5.5-2, Oracle
v7.0.16.4.0, PL/SQL release 2.0.18.1.0, SQL*Forms
3.0.16.12.6.
I have been calling a stored function in Forms 3.0. Recently I get PL/SQL error 201 at random when I compile the form. This is quite frustrating as there is no pattern. The form might generate in the morning and not in the afternoon.
This function calls a stored package and returns a random VARCHAR2 value. The function is called from a procedure in the form.
We have tried dropping the function and re-creating, dropping the package and re-creating, our DBA created a public synonym for the function, verified that the package and function are valid, etc. Oracle support hasn't been much help.
A co-worker is having a similar problem, except she is working client/server in Forms 4.0 and can't see stored procedures on the server.
If anyone has any suggestions, please help ASAP!
Thanks,
Donna - UT Memphis
dfjohnson_at_utmem2.utmem.edu
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:50:55 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chris Bowes <CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM> Subject: Backup Advice
Hi,
Can anyone share their backup strategies with us? We have a system that requires 24 hour/7 day up time. We cannot take separate tablespaces down because the system is so interdependent upon all spaces. If we take the system for the backup, we need to make sure that all transactions are finished and not rolled back, thus a normal shutdown is out as is an immediate shutdown. Is there some type of "hot" backup that can do backups while the system is running. We have Oracle 7, on an HP9000 (867). Were are running archivelog mode if that helps. Any strategy would be greatly appreciated. We're fairly new at this so.... Thanks in advance.
CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:37:33 EDT
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From: Sridevi Tummala <stummala_at_SETA.COM>
Subject: problems in SQL FORMS 4.0 in QUERY mode
hello people,
I have problems in SQL FORMS 4.0. I have develoed a form which has a
base table block. I used it for entering data into database it worked fine.
When I am running the form, I tried retrieve some data corresponding to the
primary key that has been entered in the block. So to do this I used
Enter Query option during run time. The primary key is of CHAR(8) data type.
When I enter the value in primary key field with '=' sign and quotations around
the value it works, other wise it gives error 'FRM-40301:Query caused no
records to be retrieved. Re-enter." The value of the field that I am entering
is of less than '8', if it is equal to 8 then it gives no error. While
specifying this text item, I specified MaxLength as 8 and QueryLength a and
Fixed Length Option is not checked (so it could be of variable length).
I don't understand where the problem is.
I also have another problem. I like to have a option that retrieves all (please disregard word 'all') a record corresponding to the key that has been entered in the field. I like to keep this in either Post-Change or Key-Next- Item Trigger. For this I need to use WHERE condition feature of Block in its specification. i.e. in the block specification screen, in the WHERE condition, I put table.field = :global.my_global my_global is a global variable which contains value of primary key which has been just entered. I have to use this global variable, because I need to use EXECUTE_QUERY built-in to be able to retrieve data which clears the block first, so I need to store into some var. before loose that value to be able to use it as a query c condition. My problem is, it does not recognise it and gives error 'FRM-40350:Query caused no records to be retrieved.' I tried to print the text in :System.LastQuery it is ok, except that it has one extra column in its SELECT statement called ROWID which is not there in my table. It also worked if I directly put some character string instead of global variable in WHERE condition.
I have few more triggers and procedures for other blocks in this form. Will it cause any problem?
I will be very glad for any kind of feed back.
Thank you in advance.
Sridevi Tummala
(stummala_at_seta.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:16:10 -0400
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From: Vinay Sawardekar <vsawarde_at_SCTCORP.COM>
Subject: Re: problems in SQL FORMS 4.0 in QUERY mode
In-Reply-To: <199409012139.RAA13179_at_sctsun9.sctcorp.com> from "Sridevi
Tummala" at Sep 1, 94 04:37:33 pm
Sridevi,
I think all your problems are due to the CHAR datatype of your primary key in the table. Change it to VARCHAR2(8) and your problem should be resolved. CHAR keys always expect blank padded values.
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>
> hello people,
> I have problems in SQL FORMS 4.0. I have develoed a form which has a
> base table block. I used it for entering data into database it worked fine.
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:00:00 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Chelette, Murry" <cheletm_at_JLSC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: Error Installing Oracle ORA-12154
Norm,
I encountered the same error while I was installing Oracle 7.0.15 on our SUN Sparc using Solaris 2.2. One of the things that I did to resolve this problem was to choose NOT to relink Oracle product executables. This was one of the questions that an answer was prompted for at the beginning of the installation. I asked Oracle Support if this problem had anything to do with the error that occurred at the point where the TNS Listener is started before the routine for creating the database was performed. Their reply was that the two were not related. They also stated that they did not recognise the TNS Listener error as a bug. At any rate, I figured out that by not relinking the executables SQL*DBA might work, which is what happened. As a result, I was able to suceesfully create the database in a clean installation. I hope this helps you out.
Murry Chelette - cheletm_at_jlsc.wpafb.af.mil
Battelle
Joint Logistics System Center
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
We are having some problems installing Oracle on our server. We are trying a 'complete software/database fresh install' (using the defaults) of Oracle 7.0.16 from CD on our Sparc 1000 running Solaris 2.3.
This is an extract from the error log:
. . .
SQL*DBA: Release 7.0.16.4.0 - Production on Tue Aug 30 16:29:14 1994
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
DBA-00314: unable to attach to default host ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name
File /u01/home/dba/oracle/admin/ERIN/create/crdbERIN.lst opened Tue Aug 30
ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name DBA-00302: not connected to a database ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database nameFile /u01/home/dba/oracle/admin/ERIN/create/crdbERIN.lst closed Tue Aug 30 SQL*DBA complete.
. . .
As you can see, the database name can not be resolved.
We have created the 'tnsnames.ora' file and believe it is in the correct place and follows the right syntax.
Still it does not work. Has anybody else experienced this and maybe have some ideas for us?
Norm
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Sridevi,
Answer to your first question: Probably the problem lies is the column definiti
on of your table. Check the difference between CHAR and VARCHAR2. This
table may be an old table. May be change the data type of the column.
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>> base table block. I used it for entering data into database it worked fine.
> hello people,
> I have problems in SQL FORMS 4.0. I have develoed a form which has a
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 15:15:21 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Pinchas Nisenson <62608_at_UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA> Subject: How to remove a datafile.
FROM: Pinchas Nisenson
One can easy add a data file to a data space.
How can I remove a datafile from a Tablespace?
The tablespace in question is the "TEMP" tablespace.
Thanks ...
Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca
Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447
University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 16:36:48 -0500
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From: Jiazhi <eleeb0p_at_MENUDO.UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How to remove a datafile.
In-Reply-To: <199409022117.AA28784_at_Menudo.UH.EDU> from "Pinchas Nisenson" at
Sep 2, 94 03:15:21 pm
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> As I know when you expand the datafile the only way to shrinke is drop the datafile and recreate one with desired size.
Michael.
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:55:29 BD3
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From: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS_at_BRFUEL.BITNET>
Organization: UNIVERSIDADE ESTADUAL DE LONDRINA - PARANA - BR
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
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31 Aug 1994 14:40:10 CDT from <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US>
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|o| From: almquist paul <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US>
|o|
|o| I agree with Bambi's recommendation but how is this handled if gaps
|o| in the sequence are not allowable? (A hypothetical problem for me.)
|o|
Hi
In the past, in the need to generate 'non-gapped' sequential numbers to identify customers, I created a table with one single column (PK) with all the sequential numbers I wished to use. Next, my program would retrieve the first number found in that table and delete its row, WITHOUT COMMITING the operation. Nobody else would be able to retrieve that number once it had been deleted and concurrent users would retrieve different numbers. Then, as long as the number retrieved is successfully inserted into the costumers table, a COMMIT WORK is issued and the row deleted from the numbers table is permanently gone ... that number can't be used again .... uniqueness! If the user decides not to create a new costumer, a ROLLBACK WORK is issued by the program and the number retrieved from the numbers table is put back by the system and then the number can be used by another user .... no gaps at all! Simple, efficient, very easy to program. The numbers table is not that big also, compared to the other tables of the application system. The system is set up to ROLLBACK the work of failing programs .... this is essential, of course. This technique has been used in a non-SQL environment with transaction processing, record locking and all the stuff that can be found in ORACLE. It works! From time to time ( once per year for our needs ) new numbers are inserted in the numbers table. Any comments?
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:22:12 EST
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From: "Dr. Zhonghui Ouyang" <OUYANG_at_HARVARDA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: How to remove a datafile.
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2 Sep 1994 15:15:21 MDT from <62608_at_UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
Nisenson --
The following procedures may help you to remove a datafile from TEMP tablespace:
select table_name,tablespace_name,num_rows from user_tables;
If you find a table has used TEMP tablespace, change it to use other tablespaces.
2. Ensure it is the time no any user doing data insert or other activities which will need TEMP for containing temporary segments. The best time will be: weekend, holiday or evening.
3. At SQLDBA menu, select: Storage -> Tablespace -> Set Offline -> select TEMP -> select 'After Checkpointing All Data Files of Tablespace' -> select OK.
4. At SQLDBA mnu, select: Storage -> Tablespace -> Drop -> select TEMP -> select 'Drop Contained Objects. If Present' -> select OK.
5. At your platform's OS prompt (i.e.: UNIX's $), type command for removing the datafiles which belong to TEMP. If you are not sure how many datafiles under TEMP, run following SQL statements:
select file_name,file_id,tablespace_name,bytes,blocks,status
from dba_data_files
where tablespace_name='TEMP';
6. Re-create TEMP tablespace with new datafiles. Keep in mind: 1) You must do this step -- otherwise users will not be able do data entry in next working day. 2) Have less datafiles number rather than having more under new TEMP due to that the database allows certain number of datafiles only. For this purpose, new datafiles will be larger.
Good luck!
Ouyang, from Harvard
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 15:32:00 PST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: John Tay <CVABA357_at_CSUPOMONA.EDU> Subject: SQL*LOADER - VAR POSITION
Hello:
I have a column name called 'position char(2)'. I believe some mentioned it's a reserved word in sqlloader. I have tried using 'position' or"position", but it didn't not work in the .ctl file. How can I load the data without having to change the column 'position' to 'pos' or moved all values from 'position' to a temporary column? Any suggestion? Thanks.
JT
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:48:13 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: How to remove a datafile.
In-Reply-To: Jiazhi <eleeb0p_at_MENUDO.UH.EDU> "Re: How to remove a datafile."
(Sep 2, 4:36pm)
Pinchas and Michael:
You know, I had a similar need not too long ago. We were bringing in data from different sources, and sizing estimates varied greatly. I thought it would be really cool to add a number of datafiles then drop the datafiles that were superfluous. As there is no ALTER TABLESPACE DROP DATAFILE in the manual, I made a call to see if there were any non-published ways of doing this (that would not simultaneously corrupt anything). The answer was that this simply is not possible, so I requested an enhancement... not that my lousy vote would do much good... but, if you need this too...
Anyhow, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I didn't have any luck with this, as cool as it would have been. If you find some way of doing it that doesn't corrupt anything else, I'd love to hear about it.
Best for the holiday!
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:11:17 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
In-Reply-To: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS%BRFUEL.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> "Re:
Generating one-up number" (Sep 2, 1:55pm)
Marcos --
Very clever! But, what if multiple people need to do this simultaneously and choose the same number? If your system is busy, it is possible that multiple users can access the table and choose a number which has been deleted but has not yet been committed. Of course checks could be done...
Bambi.
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:47:28 ARG Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Alvaro Pereira <apereira_at_GELLYO.JUS.GOV.AR> Subject: Undesired window in Windows
Hi folks,
I'm having a problem with Forms 3 under Windows.
If I execute OHOST(my_command,no_screen) ( or HOST), a Windows window
appears
after the execution of the command asking for an 'OK' to go on. After
this
window control returns normally to the form. The command is correctly
executed
Does anybody know how to get rid of that window?
Oracle Tech support says it's not an Oracle problem...
Perhaps some Windows configuration problem?
Thanks very much!
Alvaro Pereira
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 10:14:39 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Scott Sullivan <SULLIVAN_S_at_DELPHI.COM> Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
I am sure there is a good answer but I jave t
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 21:45:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ron Cetnar <RCETNAR_at_SNYESCVA.BITNET> Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
How about selecting the date element for UPDATE. This would single thread the transaction that nobody else could retreice that row until the transaction release the row.
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 22:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sean Walmsley <sean.p.walmsley_at_HYDRO.ON.CA> Subject: accessing record values within a block
Within a forms block, is there a way to read values from records other than the current record? My application has several multi-record blocks in which checking the value entered in record number n requires knowing the values entered in records (n-1), (n-2) ... 1. The only possibilities I can think of are:
(1) navigate to each record in turn and get the value using standard bind
variable syntax (:record_name.item_name). This won't work because it takes the focus off the record in question before it is validated and tends to fire all sorts of extraneous trigger logic (some of which requires user input)
(2) keep a "shadow" table (say a record group) in memory which is constantly
updated to match the form contents. This is possible, but is LOTS of work and is prone to synchronization problems. Since I already have the information inside the form, surely I should be able to access it without keeping an entire duplicate copy.
If the user is currently on record n, I would like to be able to do something like:
FOR i IN 1 .. TO_NUMBER(:SYSTEM.trigger_record) LOOP get the value in :RECORD_NAME.ITEM_NAME(i)
do some processing with it ^ END LOOP |- index value (illegal!)
Am I missing something obvious? It seems to me that this would be something that most forms designers would need. Is there a good reason why Oracle has not provided this functionality?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
--
Sean Walmsley
Reactor Safety and Operational Analysis Dept,
Ontario Hydro (H11-G26)
Tel. (416) 592 4608 Fax (416) 592 4966
EMail: Sean.P.Walmsley_at_hydro.on.ca
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 13:20:22 EDT
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From: JOSEPH E STEINHAUSER <k0imcjes_at_SAD41.SAD.USACE.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: SQL*LOADER - VAR POSITION
In-Reply-To: <9409030011.AA29275_at_sad41.sad.usace.army.mil> from "John Tay" at
"Sep 2, 94 3:32 pm"
*----------------------------------------------------------------------------*
In response to: John Tay <CVABA357_at_CSUPOMONA.EDU> who wrote
*----------------------------------------------------------------------------*
> I have a column name called 'position char(2)'. I believe some
> mentioned it's a reserved word in sqlloader. I have tried
> using 'position' or"position", but it didn't not work in the .ctl
> file. How can I load the data without having to change the
> column 'position' to 'pos' or moved all values from 'position'
> to a temporary column? Any suggestion? Thanks.
*----------------------------------------------------------------------------* One simple solution: make a view to the table which gives the field "position" a differenn name. For instance, if your table is: CREATE TABLE MY_TABLE ( AAAA NUMBER(6) , BBBB CHAR (20), POSITION CHAR (2) , CCCC DATE ); CREATE VIEW MY_VIEW ( AAAA, BBBB, XXXX, CCCC ) AS SELECT AAAA, BBBB, POSITION, CCCC FROM MY_TABLE; Now use MY_VIEW with SQL*Loader to place data into MY_TABLE... *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* Phone: (404) 331-6902 Joseph Edward Thomas Steinhauser Email: k0imcjes_at_sad41.sad.usace.army.mil (JETS) *-----------------------------------[EOF]------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:11:33 NZS Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ashok Sharma <asharma_at_TSSC.WLG.NEC.CO.JP> Subject: Forms30
Hi
How to I code a procedure/trigger so that whenever a message_code
Cheers
Ashok
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 09:55:08 +0100
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From: Simon Chapman <simonc_at_ALDISCON.IE>
Subject: Re: Backup Advice
In-Reply-To: <01HGM430CHIG00D7PS_at_mailgate.ucd.ie> from "Chris Bowes" at Sep 1,
94 02:50:55 pm
Chris Bowes scribbles:
> Can anyone share their backup strategies with us? We have a
> system that requires 24 hour/7 day up time. We cannot take separate
We have customers running Oracle 6.0.33/37 on Stratus' fault
tolerant Unix systems, but there should be no difference .
They also expect 24hr/7 day uptime.
Basically, we recommend using "exp" to take snapshots of tables
that do not change greatly. Frequency of this varies for tables /
customers, but we strongly recognise that "exp" is just a snapshot.
We have another couple of tables that must remain in sync. with
each other, which we write out with a C/embedded SQL program in an
ASCII format. These tables are updated multiple times per second.
We certainly need table by table backup rather than tablespace basis,
hence this approach. I'd be happy to take advice on the above, or
replace the embedded SQL bit with something more Oracle'y if anyone
has suggestions.
Simon
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 10:24:50 BD3
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From: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS_at_BRFUEL.BITNET>
Organization: UNIVERSIDADE ESTADUAL DE LONDRINA - PARANA - BR
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
In-Reply-To: Message of Fri,
2 Sep 1994 20:11:17 -0500 from <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
|o|
|o| From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
|o|
|o| Marcos --
|o| Very clever! But, what if multiple people need to do this
|o| simultaneously and choose the same number?
|o|
The idea is just to have concurrent users doing this and NOT picking up the same number. Each time the approach is tried under concurrency a unique number MUST be retrieved.
|o|
|o| If your system is busy, it is possible that multiple users can access
|o| the table and choose a number which has been deleted but has not yet
|o| been committed. Of course checks could be done...
|o| Bambi.
|o|
I think you are concerned about ROLLBACK SEGMENTS here. As
a matter of fact I've never been an ORACLE user thus far. I
participate in this list because we intend to purchase ORACLE in the
near future and I thought it would be a good idea to listen ( read )
about ORACLE issues and problems in order to to get used to it.
Well, I am not aware of the implications of ROLLBACK SEGMENTS on
non-commited ROW DELETEs but I know the concept of ROLLBACK SEGMENTS.
In the environment in which I've developed the technique I wrote
about, non-commited deleted rows are NEVER retrieved until
rolled-back, so it's just IMPOSSIBLE to occur the situation you've
mentioned and the schema works for sure ( it is being used| ). If
you have ORACLE at hand, wouldn't you like to check ORACLE behavior
for us and tell us how it goes? Would it be possible that a table /
tablespace is set up in a way that it has NO rollback segment
assigned ???????? I'd like very much to know ..... Best regards
...
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Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:04:31 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ray Ontko <rayo_at_ONTKO.COM> Subject: Re: Forms30
> How to I code a procedure/trigger so that whenever a message_code
> = 40350 (Query caused no records to be retrieved), the cursor
> stops on the first field of the previous block rather than
> on the current block .
Ashok,
If you're experiencing this from ENTER QUERY mode and want to position the cursor somewhere other than the current block, you're out of luck. ENTER QUERY mode gives you no choice in the matter.
If you're experiencing this after executing EXECUTE_QUERY, you should be able to check ERROR_CODE and decide what to do (go to such and such a field), which should be a snap.
Am I missing the point of your question?
Ray
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:23:21 NZS Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ashok Sharma <asharma_at_TSSC.WLG.NEC.CO.JP> Subject: Re: Forms30
Ray
After executing the EXECUTE_QUERY from the KEY-NXTBLK trigger, I tried using ERROR_CODE to determine if the cursor should go back to the previous block...but got a message saying go_block was not allowed!! or something similar!
I even tried using on-message-trigger but did not have any luck
when I tried to use either go_block or previous_block.
Ashok
> How to I code a procedure/trigger so that whenever a message_code
> = 40350 (Query caused no records to be retrieved), the cursor
> stops on the first field of the previous block rather than
> on the current block .
Ashok,
If you're experiencing this from ENTER QUERY mode and want to position the cursor somewhere other than the current block, you're out of luck. ENTER QUERY mode gives you no choice in the matter.
If you're experiencing this after executing EXECUTE_QUERY, you should be able to check ERROR_CODE and decide what to do (go to such and such a field), which should be a snap.
Am I missing the point of your question?
Ray
> After executing the EXECUTE_QUERY from the KEY-NXTBLK trigger, I tried
> using ERROR_CODE to determine if the cursor should go back
> to the previous block...but got a message saying
> go_block was not allowed!! or something similar!
>
> I even tried using on-message-trigger but did not have any luck
> when I tried to use either go_block or previous_block.
Ashok,
You should examine ERROR_CODE in the KEY-NXTBLK trigger, not the ON-ERROR trigger or ON-MESSAGE trigger. GO_BLOCK can only be executed from KEY- triggers, not from ON-, PRE-, or POST- triggers.
Ray
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 08:56:42 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Akbar Shah </PN=ash/OU=venus/@GBF-BRAUNSCHWEIG.DBP.DE> Subject: Forms 4.0
Hi,
I have a problem with Forms 4.0 Designer. When I design a Form, which
looks fine enough, then I generate it, but when I run the Form the
Forms shift towards left side of the screen (Forms for Windows 4.0),
has any one an idea how to generate Forms so that they fit on the screen.
Thanks
Akbar Shah
Biologische Bundesanstalt
Braunschweig
Germany
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 07:49:00 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "RATHBUN David G." <DRATHBUN_at_SHIDAL01.DALLAS.MM1.SHL.COM> Subject: skipping columns with SQL*Loader / Is this posting?
Greetings. I've been trying to post to this list for some time now, and am not sure if anything is making it through. If this is posted, will someone please send me email at DRATHBUN_at_SHL.COM to confirm? Thanks in advance.
The question that I am attempting to respond to is regarding the ability of SQL*Loader to skip a column in a delimited file. I am pleased to share my solution. The scenario involved a delimited file, and the user wanted column 1 and column 3 but not column 2. The file format might look like:
123|a|456
929345|b|92834
1434|asdfasdfa|9
There were other suggestions regarding using a temp table to load the data, then select the data into the final table, but if the data file is large this could require a lot of resources. SQL*Loader does not provide a mechanism for skipping columns in a delimited file, but you can do it with a little trickery. See the following control file:
load data
infile "\c.txt"
append
into table testing_load
fields terminated by "|"
(
c1,
c2 nullif (c2 <> ''),
c3
)
In this case, the three columns are named C1, C2, and C3, where C2 is the column that we want to skip. Note that the NULLIF clause will skip the delimited value of C2 if the value is not null, and if the value is null, then what does it matter if it is loaded? I tested this on Oracle 6.0 on a PC, but I imagine that it will work on other platforms and on Oracle 7 as well.
Again, if my previous post of this solution made it to the list, I apologize. If somebody will let me know that my posts are getting through I would appreciate it. I guess the question is: if I post something to the list, is the list smart enough to figure out that I don't need a copy sent back to me?
Dave Rathbun (DRathbun_at_SHL.com)
SHL Systemhouse
Central Region
See you at IOUW '94 in lovely San Francisco!
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:53:26 MST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Steve Calvert Ext. 2071" <calvert_at_HG.ULETH.CA> Subject: Re: accessing record values within a block
Sean Walmsley <sean.p.walmsley_at_HYDRO.ON.CA> writes:
>Within a forms block, is there a way to read values from records other than the >current record? My application has several multi-record blocks in which >checking the value entered in record number n requires knowing the values >entered in records (n-1), (n-2) ... 1. The only possibilities I can think >of are: > >(1) navigate to each record in turn and get the value using standard bind
> >(2) keep a "shadow" table (say a record group) in memory which is constantly
:
Stuff deleted
:
Sean:
I haven't found anything (YET) other than the two options you listed. I found option #1 easier to implement though if you use a global variable to control "what happens when extraneous triggers are fired". For example:
:GLOBAL.SKIP_EDIT_CHECKS := 'Y';
{ do your "loop" processing }
:GLOBAL.SKIP_EDIT_CHECKS := 'N';
All "extraneous triggers" would check :GLOBAL.SKIP_EDIT_CHECKS to see if they should perform their normal function or not and KEY-STARTUP trigger is used to initialize :GLOBAL.SKIP_EDIT_CHECKS. This IS a lot of work, but it is "safer" than using a "shadow table" (possible synchronization problems).
If someone come up with a better solution please let me know ... thanks!
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:06:24 -0600
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From: "Billy J. Barnett, Jr." <BBARNETT_at_UTMEM1.BITNET>
Subject: System Editors in Forms 4.0 on Macintosh
Since Forms 4.0 on the Macintosh does not support system editors, has anybody written an equivalent substitute with user exits or some other Forms 4.0 functionality. I want to dump LONG fields into MS Word, edit the text, and retu
rn
the results back into the LONG field.
Thanks in advance,
Billy Barnett
University of Tennessee - Memphis
bbarnett_at_utmem2.utmem.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 18:21:46 GMT+0100 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ray Gardener <R.Gardener_at_SHEFFIELD-HALLAM.AC.UK> Organization: SHEFFIELD HALLAM UNIVERSITY Subject: ORACLE REPORTS VERSION 2 CRASH
I've just installed Oracle 7.0.16 on a Sun Sparc system running Sun OS 4.1.3 . Most of the software works but the reports designer 2 module (with Motif interface) crashes out. Form 4.0 with a similar interface works BTW. Has any one had a similar experience and knows how to cure it?.
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:36:03 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sean Walmsley <sean.p.walmsley_at_HYDRO.ON.CA> Subject: Re: accessing record values within a block
Steve:
Thanks for your response - I think your suggestion is probably the way to go. I'll let you know if I get any other suggestions from the net or from Oracle.
--
Sean Walmsley
Reactor Safety and Operational Analysis Dept,
Ontario Hydro (H11-G26)
Tel. (416) 592 4608 Fax (416) 592 4966
EMail: Sean.P.Walmsley_at_hydro.on.ca
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:39:49 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Brenda Wheatley <WHEATLEY_at_NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV> Subject: So... what was the answer and how did it go?
Jeff:
I tried to forward this message directly to you at the address you had provided but was given a host server name failure. I received the following message that you posted and in return posted back a response. Did you see the response? I never did get any other response from my message and I did not see anything in relation to yours:
>>From: SMTP%"ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" 29-AUG-1994 06:49:08.91
>>To: WHEATLEY >>CC: >>Subj: Oracle 7 under OpenVMS 6.1 >>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 1994 06:38:00 EDT >>Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc. buffalo.edu> >>Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc. buffalo.edu> >>From: Jeffrey Weiss <JRWEISS%SNYESCVA.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> >>Subject: Oracle 7 under OpenVMS 6.1 >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
>>Currently we are running Oracle 7.0.15.4.0 under VMS 5.5-2. I the very short
>>future, namely three days from now, there is a planned upgrade of the operatin
g
>>system to Open VMS 6.1.
>>Does anyone out there know if there is a problem running this version of Oracl
e
>>under Open VMS 6.1? Will we need any pathches from Oracle in order for the
>>system to work?
So......... how did it go? We are planning on upgrading in two weeks. Are there any words of wisdom that you can offer me? What version did you end up using?
Please get back to me as soon as you can...and thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.
Does anybody else have any useful information that they would like to pass along?
Cheers,
Brenda Wheatley
System Administrator
Hughes STX
P: (301) 286-3980
mail: Brenda.Wheatley_at_gsfc.nasa.gov
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:13:34 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gigi Suardi <gigi_at_SOFTINT.COM> Subject: ORACLE optimizer puzzle
hi there,
here we are writing an application for oracle 7 that makes use of the referential constraints defined in the database (primary & foreign keys). the applications retrieves the pk/fk information stored in the catalog views all_constraints and all_col_constraints using a pretty simple query that follows at the end of this message. this query to retrieve foreign keys is very slow and sometime takes up to 45 minutes to run (1000+ constraints).
the question is: do you see a way to optimize the query?
i generated the query plan using EXPLAIN PLAN and the only thing i realized is that all the time goes into the execution of a huge number of NESTED LOOPS. further more all the usable indexes appears to be used and i do not know if this is a drawback or an advantage...
any help, hints, comments would be highly appreciated. thanks.
gigi.
query @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
SELECT
lc.constraint_name, lc.constraint_type, lc.owner, lc.table_name,
rc.constraint_name, rc.constraint_type, rc.owner, rc.table_name,
all_constraints lc, all_cons_columns lcc, all_constraints rc, all_cons_columns rcc
lc.constraint_type || '' = 'R' AND lc.constraint_name = lcc.constraint_name AND rc.constraint_name = rcc.constraint_name AND lc.r_constraint_name = rc.constraint_name ANDlcc.position = rcc.position AND
Query Plan @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------
UNION-ALL
FILTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
Query Plan
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
TABLE ACCESS FULL OBJ$
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER CCOL$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COBJ#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID COL$
Query Plan
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COL2
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
Query Plan
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID OBJ$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
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TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
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INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
SORT JOIN
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INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
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INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COL2
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INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
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TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID OBJ$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
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INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
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>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:14:32 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Philippe Lamoise <lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG> Subject: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
Sorry if I send that again but I would like to be heard this time !
I have tried multiple times to reach the list owner, without succes. I try once more, this time through the list.
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>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:14:57 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Philippe Lamoise <lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG> Subject: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
(again)
Sorry if I send that again but I would like to be heard this time !
I have tried multiple times to reach the list owner, without succes. I try once more, this time through the list.
PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES !!!
================================================================
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This is a copy of what I have tried to send:
>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:15:17 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Philippe Lamoise <lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG> Subject: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
(re - again)
Sorry if I send that again but I would like to be heard this time !
I have tried multiple times to reach the list owner, without succes. I try once more, this time through the list.
PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES !!!
================================================================
^^^
This is a copy of what I have tried to send:
>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:15:36 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Philippe Lamoise <lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG> Subject: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
(again and again)
Sorry if I send that again but I would like to be heard this time !
I have tried multiple times to reach the list owner, without succes. I try once more, this time through the list.
PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES !!!
================================================================
^^^
This is a copy of what I have tried to send:
>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:16:10 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Philippe Lamoise <lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG> Subject: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
(again maybe the last)
Sorry if I send that again but I would like to be heard this time !
I have tried multiple times to reach the list owner, without succes. I try once more, this time through the list.
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This is a copy of what I have tried to send:
>To: SK%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu >From: lamoisp_at_itersd1.iterus.com (Philippe Lamoise) >Subject: PLEASE, remove from ORACLE-L >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >I am sending it for the second time: > >Hi > >I desperatly tried multiple times to fix my subscription to the ORACLE-L list >but without success. >What happens is that I am registred in your list as:
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.COM Philippe LAMOISE.
> lamoisp_at_ITERSD1.ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
> lamoisp_at_ITERUS.ORG Philippe Lamoise
>which are three equivalent addresses, which means that I receive every mail >three times. That happened because the name of our domain has changed >multiple times. I have no control on the way my mail goes out. If I change >the configuration of my personal mailer, the system adds anyway the official >address and it is this one that is taken by your listserv. >I can only signoff on one of the previous addresses and if I do that, I >receive the mails only twice, but cannot post any mail of send any listserv >commands. >
> PLEASE, REMOVE FROM THIS LIST ALL OF THE PREVIOUS ADDRESSES !!!
> ===============================================================
> >Later, I will subscribe again and this time it will be the correct address. >Thanks in advance. > >Philippe Lamoise ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 17:57:00 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "RATHBUN David G." <DRATHBUN_at_SHIDAL01.DALLAS.MM1.SHL.COM> Subject: Go Block / Execute Query discussion
First: thanks to all that confirmed that my contribution to the list made it through. On to the next problem.
>> After executing the EXECUTE_QUERY from the KEY-NXTBLK trigger, I tried
>> using ERROR_CODE to determine if the cursor should go back >> to the previous block...but got a message saying >> go_block was not allowed!! or something similar! >> >> I even tried using on-message-trigger but did not have any luck >> when I tried to use either go_block or previous_block. >Ashok, > >You should examine ERROR_CODE in the KEY-NXTBLK trigger, not the >ON-ERROR trigger or ON-MESSAGE trigger. GO_BLOCK can only be executed>from
>Ray
Actually, you don't need to check for an error code at all. First, the 'Query caused no records to be retrieved' is a MESSAGE, not an ERROR. Second, this simple KEY-NXTBLK trigger is one that I typically use in this scenario:
BEGIN
GO_BLOCK ('block_to_query');
EXECUTE_QUERY;
IF :block_to_query.ROWID IS NULL THEN
GO_BLOCK ('block_to_return_to');
MESSAGE ('No appropriate records to show.');
ELSE
NULL;
Dave Rathbun
SHL Systemhouse, Central Region
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 06:00:00 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Eclipse Technology Inc." <0006410539_at_MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Get me out of this list !!!!!!
try something original....call the State University of New York at Buffalo, commonly referred to as UB. Contact the Computer Services Dept and try getting them to remove it.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:12:55 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Karel Sprenger <ks_at_IC.UVA.NL> Subject: Re: Get me out of this list !!!!!!In-Reply-To: "Eclipse Technology Inc."'s message as of Sep 7, 6:00
On Sep 7, 6:00 "Eclipse Technology Inc." wrote:
> try something original....call the State University of New York at Buffalo,
> commonly referred to as UB. Contact the Computer Services Dept and try
> getting them to remove it.
Try sending the message "SIGNOFF ORACLE-L" to listserv_at_ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu. If you registered there with your current name and email address you will be dropped from the list.
Cheers,
Karel
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 23:59:01 NZS Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ashok Sharma <asharma_at_TSSC.WLG.NEC.CO.JP> Subject: Key Mapping for ProComm
Hi
Has anyone got a reasonable key mapping file that I can get for my users to use with the procomm software interfacing with F orms30 ?.
TIA
Ashok
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 07:54:04 EST
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From: Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_ROCKVILLE_at_CCLINK.TFN.COM
Subject: Finding previous quarter
In my select statement, I have a date which I need converted to the
previous quarter date.
A similiar example is this:
SQL> select round(datefield,'Q')
2 from dual;
01-JUL-94
1 row selected.
But, I don't want it rounded, I want the previous quarter-end. I
probably need some combination of TO_CHAR as well as TO_DATE to
convert the date to a quarter, and then back into a date.
What would take any date and convert it to the previous quarter-end
date?
I am using V6.
Thanks.
Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_Rockville_at_Thomson.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:02:00 -0400
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From: "Betty Page (SSD)" <bpage_at_CENSUS.GOV>
Subject: OFA White Paper
Does anyone have a copy of or know where to get a copy of a white paper from Oracle on OFA (Optimal Flexible Architecture) rule set?
TIA,
BFP
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:48:21 CDT
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From: Charles Hightower <chigh_at_MGMSERV1.MGM.SAIC.COM>
Subject: Re: Finding previous quarter
In my select statement, I have a date which I need converted to the
previous quarter date.
A similiar example is this:
SQL> select round(datefield,'Q')
2 from dual;
01-JUL-94
1 row selected.
But, I don't want it rounded, I want the previous quarter-end. I
probably need some combination of TO_CHAR as well as TO_DATE to
convert the date to a quarter, and then back into a date.
What would take any date and convert it to the previous quarter-end
date?
********************
You don't want it rounded. Is that because you want the time portion to remain intact, or because it's not doing what you want?
If the time portion is not important:
You mention the date the function returned, but you don't say
what date you were hoping for. If you were looking for 30-JUN-94, you
might try:
select round(datefield,'Q') -1 from dual
If the time portion is important for you purposes, or the date you're looking for is something other than 30-JUN-94, let me know, and I'll see if I can come up with something else.
Charles
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:44:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: JIM STONER <JSTONER_at_SNYESCVA.BITNET> Subject: Re: ORACLE optimizer puzzle
Gigi, I'm not sure that this works, but I've been told that in version 6 the last table listed in the from clause will be the one which other tables are joined to. In your query, it seems to me like all_constraints (lc) should be the last table listed in your from clause, since it will be smaller than all_cons_columns and is also the table that you are checking the constraint type for.
query @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
SELECT
lc.constraint_name, lc.constraint_type, lc.owner, lc.table_name,
rc.constraint_name, rc.constraint_type, rc.owner, rc.table_name,
all_constraints lc, all_cons_columns lcc, all_constraints rc, all_cons_columns rcc
lc.constraint_type || '' = 'R' AND lc.constraint_name = lcc.constraint_name AND rc.constraint_name = rcc.constraint_name AND lc.r_constraint_name = rc.constraint_name ANDlcc.position = rcc.position AND
Query Plan @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------
UNION-ALL
FILTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
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Query Plan
NESTED LOOPS
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TABLE ACCESS FULL OBJ$
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER CCOL$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COBJ#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID COL$
Query Plan
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COL2
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
Query Plan
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID OBJ$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
NESTED LOOPS
FIXED TABLE X$KZSRO
INDEX RANGE SCAN I_OBJAUTH2
NESTED LOOPS
FIXED TABLE X$KZSRO
Query Plan
INDEX RANGE SCAN I_OBJAUTH2
FILTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
FILTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
Query Plan
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
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MERGE JOIN
SORT JOIN
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
NESTED LOOPS OUTER
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
Query Plan
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
NESTED LOOPS
TABLE ACCESS FULL
OBJ$
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER
CCOL$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN
I_COBJ#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID
CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN
I_CDEF1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID
COL$
Query Plan
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN
I_COL2
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
Query Plan
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID OBJ$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
SORT JOIN
TABLE ACCESS FULL CCOL$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
Query Plan
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID COL$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_COL2
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CDEF$
Query Plan
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CDEF1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID OBJ$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_OBJ1
TABLE ACCESS BY ROWID CON$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_CON2
TABLE ACCESS CLUSTER USER$
INDEX UNIQUE SCAN I_USER#
NESTED LOOPS
FIXED TABLE X$KZSRO
INDEX RANGE SCAN I_OBJAUTH2
NESTED LOOPS
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FIXED TABLE X$KZSRO
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:50:00 EDT
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From: JIM STONER <JSTONER_at_SNYESCVA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: ORACLE optimizer puzzle
Gigi, I just made the mod I suggested, changing the table all_constraints lc to the last one in your FROM clause, and did an explain plan on it. It seems to come out much better. On my system, it does a full table access on CDEF$, which is about 1/3 the size of OBJ$ (from the plan output in your message). Also, there is only one set of nested loops instead of 2.
Hope it helps!
Jim
jstoner_at_snyescva.bitnet
jstoner_at_sescva.esc.edu
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:09:45 -500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "David L. Dennis" <ddennis_at_LIBRA.AFSOC.AF.MIL> Subject: Geo-coord access
Has anyone out there dealt with issues involving geographic coordinates (i.e. Lat/Long coords) within an Oracle database. i.e. schemes for storing, searching, and retrieving records based on a lat/long coordinate.
Thanks,
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
BTW - thanks to all who contributed to the "suggested readings for DBA's" question. I hope to post a compilation of the suggestions received later this week.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:58:37 EST
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From: Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_ROCKVILLE_at_CCLINK.TFN.COM
Subject: Re[2]: Finding previous quarter
Hi again...
I am sorry, but I did not make myself entirely clear when I used the
ROUND function in my example. I don't want to round to the nearest
quarter: ex. ROUND(SYSDATE,'Q') which will produce 01-OCT-94. I am
looking for the previous quarter-end, ie. 30-JUN-94, if the input was
today's date. For any date that is entered, it will be converted to
the previous quarter-ending date.
I was thinking of something similiar to this:
TO_DATE(TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'Q')-1,'Q') but... it does not work.
If you have a quarter such as in 1,2,3,4 (first quarter, second
quarter,...) is there any way to convert this to a date?
TO_DATE(4,'Q') will produce 01-OCT-94, or are more paramaters needed
for TO_DATE to create a date (such as a year?)?
Thanks.
Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_Rockville_at_Thomson.com
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Subject: Re: Finding previous quarter
In my select statement, I have a date which I need converted to the
previous quarter date.
A similiar example is this:
SQL> select round(datefield,'Q')
2 from dual;
01-JUL-94
1 row selected.
But, I don't want it rounded, I want the previous quarter-end. I
probably need some combination of TO_CHAR as well as TO_DATE to
convert the date to a quarter, and then back into a date.
What would take any date and convert it to the previous quarter-end
date?
********************
You don't want it rounded. Is that because you want the time portion to remain intact, or because it's not doing what you want?
If the time portion is not important:
You mention the date the function returned, but you don't say
what date you were hoping for. If you were looking for 30-JUN-94, you
might try:
select round(datefield,'Q') -1 from dual
If the time portion is important for you purposes, or the date you're looking for is something other than 30-JUN-94, let me know, and I'll see if I can come up with something else.
Charles
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:05:51 CDT
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From: Bill Pribyl <dcraft!bill_at_NUCHAT.SCCSI.COM>
Subject: Re: ORACLE optimizer puzzle
In-Reply-To: <m0qi9iq-00097MC_at_nuchat.sccsi.com>; from "Gigi Suardi" at Sep 6,
94 4:13 pm
Gigi,
I had a similar need in a V6 database and wound up writing my own view of the base tables (OBJ$, CON$, etc.) rather than using Oracle's built-in all_constraints etc views. Figuring out how to phrase the query in the view was a real pain but the speed improvement was at least an order of magnitude.
Bill
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:32:07 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Don Izard <IZARD_at_UBVM.BITNET> Subject: Optimized versus Analyzed questions ?
On a somewhat related thread to current questions on the "optimizer":
As I read The Oracle version 7, Administrator's Guide, chapter 8, that, for cost based optimization to work, the tables must be "ANALYZED". In our current situation, a majority of our tables are loaded into Oracle on a nightly basis, from external systems. Does that mean that we have to immediatly run ANALYZE on all newly loaded tables daily?
What happens if you have a mix of analyzed and NON analyzed tables? What, if any, problems are there with RULES based optimization versus COST based?
Don Izard izard_at_ubvm.cc.buffalo.eduOracle db support
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:30:46 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: previous quarter problem
I had a similar problem with finding previous month ends. The way I did it was`to create a table with all month ends in itThen when I want
ed a previous month, I did a lookup and fetched the previous record.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:38:04 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Re: Geo-coord access
I didn't do latitude/longitude but I did do a big design that
stored all generic geographic types and their relationship to each other.
e.g. containes, next to, flows through. Latitude / longitude should
be trivial. Isn't it just 2 numeric fields?? What do you see as the problem?
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:57:22 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Mike Regovic <mregovic_at_BABIES.BSD.UCHICAGO.EDU> Subject: Re: Finding previous quarter>
> Hi again...
>
> I am sorry, but I did not make myself entirely clear when I used the
> ROUND function in my example. I don't want to round to the nearest
> quarter: ex. ROUND(SYSDATE,'Q') which will produce 01-OCT-94. I am
> looking for the previous quarter-end, ie. 30-JUN-94, if the input was
> today's date. For any date that is entered, it will be converted to
> the previous quarter-ending date.
>
> I was thinking of something similiar to this:
>
> TO_DATE(TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'Q')-1,'Q') but... it does not work.
>
> If you have a quarter such as in 1,2,3,4 (first quarter, second
> quarter,...) is there any way to convert this to a date?
>
> TO_DATE(4,'Q') will produce 01-OCT-94, or are more paramaters needed
> for TO_DATE to create a date (such as a year?)?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_Rockville_at_Thomson.com
Use the TRUNC function with a -1 as in:
select (TRUNC(sysdate,'Q')-1) from dual;
It worked when I tried it.
Mike Regovic.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:05:56 -0400
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From: Teresa A Larson <larson_at_SLED.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Re: Geo-coord access
In-Reply-To: <9409071641.AA06317_at_sled.gsfc.nasa.gov> from "David L. Dennis" at
Sep 7, 94 10:09:45 am
> Has anyone out there dealt with issues involving geographic coordinates
> (i.e. Lat/Long coords) within an Oracle database. i.e. schemes for
> storing, searching, and retrieving records based on a lat/long
> coordinate.
I was on a project a couple of years ago where we had to do this. We weren't using Oracle, but I don't think that matters. We chose to store lat and lon in degrees rather than hours/minutes. We stored the values as real numbers using positive/negative to indicate north/south and east/west. Hope this helps.
Teresa Larson
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Jim, with today's date (07-Sep-94) you want to be able to easily determine the previous quarter end. (30-Jun-94).
Try:
select add_months(round(datefield,'Q') -1, -3) from dual
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:33:59 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Charles Hightower <chigh_at_MGMSERV1.MGM.SAIC.COM> Subject: Quarter End again
Oops. Try instead
select round(add_months(sysdate,-3), 'Q') -1 from dual
That way, it'll still be correct when the quarter-end is March & December (and will show the 31st instead of the 30th).
Charles
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:52:28 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Charles Hightower <chigh_at_MGMSERV1.MGM.SAIC.COM> Subject: Still the Quarter End.
I've tried dates from JAN-1 to DEC-31, and the last formula I gave you doesn't work correctly.
Sorry.
By the way, I'd be surprised if you have to resort to the TO_DATE function. You shouldn't need to do that unless you have some need to convert it to character form.
Charles
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:50:35 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gretchen Rowe <ICG1R_at_ASUACAD.BITNET> Subject: Database Switch Advice
ADVICE NEEDED ON RELATIONAL DATABASES FOR WINDOWS We currently use DataPerfect, a relational database which we chose because of its capability with and similarity to (function keywise) to WordPerfect. Unfortunately, the company is not upgrading DataPerfect for Windows. We have delayed switching to Windows since we rely heavily on our database, but the force of technology being what it is...
I would welcome any advice on user-friendly relational databases for Windows (especially from users of said software). We are concerned about having plenty of subpanels/space available to store all the relationship ties we have to our 6,000 customers (academics and business executives), as well as having the ability to double the number of people on the database; the ability to sort by zip, by geography, by relationship tie, etc.; the availability to use the database as an on-line rolodex; etc.
Also, any pointers from anyone who has had to switch over (naturally, we don't want to re-input all the info.; we want to import the data from the old database in readily usable form) would be welcome.
Email me directly:
Gretchen Rowe, Marketing Director
First Interstate Cetner for Services Marketing
Arizona State University
icg1r_at_asuacad (Bitnet) or icg1r_at_asuvm.inre.asu.edu (Internet)
Thanks in advance!
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:34:32 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: DKRUTH_at_US.ORACLE.COM Subject: Re: Geo-coord access
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>>Has anyone out there dealt with issues involving geographic coordinates >>(i.e. Lat/Long coords) within an Oracle database. i.e. schemes for >>storing, searching, and retrieving records based on a lat/long >>coordinate.
Oracle is addressing this technology (spatial/temporal data and relational databases) with a new product call Oracle Multi-Dimension. To avoid flames and not market on this list I am suggesting that you talk to your rep to get the appropriate literature that describes this new technology. If there is an overwhelming interest in the technology perhaps I can post a summary of the product including its features and functions.
Regards
Doug
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Received: 07 Sep 1994 11:03:44 Sent: 07 Sep 1994 11:02:24From:"David L. Dennis" <owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU> To: Multiple,recipients,of,list,ORACLE-L,ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET Subject: Geo-coord access
Has anyone out there dealt with issues involving geographic coordinates (i.e. Lat/Long coords) within an Oracle database. i.e. schemes for storing, searching, and retrieving records based on a lat/long coordinate.
Thanks,
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
BTW - thanks to all who contributed to the "suggested readings for DBA's" question. I hope to post a compilation of the suggestions received later this week.
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Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 16:05:55 EDT
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Subject: Re: SQL*LOADER - VAR POSITION
In-Reply-To: Message of Fri,
2 Sep 1994 15:32:00 PST from <CVABA357_at_CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Can you please tell me how to sign out of this confference?
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 16:46:26 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
In-Reply-To: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS%BRFUEL.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu> "Re:
Generating one-up number" (Sep 5, 10:24am)
Marcos --
No, I wasn't referring to rollback segments... my concern was that unless your method was running in autocommit, that if more than one user simultaneously grabbed the next in a sequence, that duplicates may arise; and if you are running in autocommit, gaps would appear if the user chose a different key id (as was the original requirement).
Let me explain why I brought up the point... if two users are simultaneously accessing a table and one of them deletes a record, the other one still sees the record there until the first one commits his/her transaction. After the commit, the next select would not show the record available (but if the key id is already on the screen, that doesn't help you immensely). If you are doing this method in production, you may want to test this at your site.
Even so, the paradigm is clever, and would probably be useful in cases where sequences would not be appropriate (e.g., the selection of approved lot numbers or randomly generated key ids).
Best of luck,
Bambi.
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 18:01:27 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Re: Database Switch Advice
I would use Paradox for Windows V5. It would easily meet all your needs.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 16:37:57 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Norm Russell <nrussell_at_ETC.BC.CA> Subject: Re: Key Mapping for ProComm
At 11:59 PM 94/09/07 +0000, Ashok Sharma wrote:
>Hi >
>
Hi Ashok,
If you're using procomm+ for windows, you might want to try using the VT220 keyboard mapping I made.
It is available for FTP:
ftp.cica.indiana.edu: /pub/pc/win3/misc/vt220kbd.zip (something like that) or you may want to try a mirror, since it's usually busy: archive.orst.edu
The readme.txt file describes the key mapping. This should work with FORMS3.0, but I've never tried it.
Hope it helps.
Norm
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At 8:02 AM 94/09/07 -0400, Betty Page (SSD) wrote:
>Does anyone have a copy of or know where to get a copy of a white paper >from Oracle on OFA (Optimal Flexible Architecture) rule set? > >TIA, >BFP
A small pamphlet from Oracle called 'Oracle for UNIX: Performance Tuning Tips' (Part No. 53134-0293) contains a 6 page appendix on Oracle OFA rules.
Norm
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David,
I am aware of what you say, and the copy of the mail I sent to the list is the mail I tried to send to the list manager !!!!! I tried that four times during the last six month. For those who didn't catch that, I tried the automatic signoff many times and it doesn't work because I am not registred with my current name and address.
Since then, I have been pissed off twenty times a day receiving mail I do not want. Do you think this is nice for me ???
What should be criticized is the behavior of the Internet, not my Internet behavior.
I got some very nice answers of other people who were obviously more concerned with my fate.
I hope you will get to vote, and it is my best wish to be kicked out of this list, but it will not be a question of maturity.
I will accept apologizes.
Cheers
Philippe
>Philippe, >In-Reply-To: "RATHBUN David G."'s message as of Sep 6, 7:49
> Once should have been enough to the list if the automatic
>sign-off did not work. I suggest that you keep the copy of the >sign-on materials provided by the list server when you become a new >subscriber. From those materials, you would be able to know how to >reach the list manager. >
> Multiple mailings of the same note to the entire list population
>does not make your request any more effective, and frankly, is the >worst form of Internet behavior. You have managed to stuff the >mailboxes of hundreds of subscribers. If I get to vote, I would vote >to keep you off the list until you mature a bit. > > > > >============================================================================ >David E. Hillier || 2323 Anderson Avenue, Suite 215 >Office of Information Systems || Manhattan, KS 66502-2947 >Kansas State University || (913) 532-7843 >DEH_at_KSU.KSU.EDU || FAX: (913) 532-6284 >============================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:39:05 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Karel Sprenger <ks_at_IC.UVA.NL> Subject: FYI: How to get off this list
Hello all,
The last few days several people asked how to be removed from this list. As with any list, the general procedure is to send a mail message to a listserver (for example LISTSERV_at_CCVM.sunysb.edu) with in this case:
signoff ORACLE-L
as the message body. However, if your email address changed since signing on (and some mailer forwards to your new address) this will NOT work as the listserver will use your current email address and won't find you in the list. In that case there are two possible solutions.
The first one is to ask the list owner (a genuine human being) to manually remove you from the list. According to the listserver LISTSERV_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU you might try writing to the generic address:
>result of sending the message "Info ORACLE-L" to the mentioned listserver:
> ORACLE-L-Request_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU
> You might also try the address SK_at_SBCCVM (bitnet) as it is mentioned in the
The second one is more devious and requires the help of your local postmaster, who has to send the signoff message and FORGING the From: (and possibly the Reply-to:) line of the message to contain your old email address.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Karel
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Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 06:05:00 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Eclipse Technology Inc." <0006410539_at_MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Pro*C vs. ODBC
Greetings,
We are developing a Windows program to do some heavy processing of data in an Oracle7 db. We have found that with Pro*C we can do nothing without using the large memory model. We would like to stay in the medium memory model.
Has anyone directly tested ODBC vs. Pro*C to know whether that would help us stay in the medium model?
We are running Pro*C 1.5 production with Visual C++.
Thanks for any tips.
Regards,
Powel Crosley
6410539_at_mcimail.com
615.483.1939
615.483.1873 Fax
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 13:07:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: Re: OFA White Paper From: CBS%UK.AC.EARN-RELAY::EARN.SBCCVM::ORACLE-L 7-SEP-1994 15:27:35.53 To: HUET1
>Does anyone have a copy of or know where to get a copy of a white paper >from Oracle on OFA (Optimal Flexible Architecture) rule set? >TIA, >BFP
I would also like to know?
Huet Bartels
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:07:19 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sunil Gupta <sgupta_at_SETA.COM> Subject: forms4.0 basic qs
Had some basic qs as recently started developing with forms4.0 how to add labels for newly created items? how to create default button pallette after being done with creating several base blocks?
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:11:12 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Comments: <Parser> W: FROM field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Bess Protacio <bess_at_AIP.ORG> Subject: Re: OFA White Paper
Betty,
I have a copy of the paper. Give me a mailing address and I will send it to you.
Bess Protacio Tel No. (516) 576-2325 American Institute of Physics FAX No. (516) 349-7669500 Sunnyside Blvd.
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:24:32 -0500
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From: Steve Quigley <squigley_at_SCTCORP.COM>
Subject: Re: forms4.0 basic qs
Reply to: RE>forms4.0 basic qs
For labels, I assume you mean boiler text, you use the layout editor and by pressing the large T button on the button palet. Then click in the location you want to place the text and a box will show up with your cursor inside. Type what you want and then click outside the box.
As for the button bar, there was a good example in one of the Oracle newspapers from about 6 or 9 months ago. Don't remember which. It may even have been a year ago but no further back then that.
Steve Quigley
squigley_at_sctcorp.com
Had some basic qs as recently started developing with forms4.0 how to add labels for newly created items? how to create default button pallette after being done with creating several base blocks?
This isn't exactly answering your question, but working with this problem was burned in my mind:|
We designed a technician dispatching system using lat/long information. We knew the lat/long of every customer site and every tech. We used an three page formula to calculate the distance between the site and each tech. We then presented the ranked list of technicians by distance from the site for the dispatcher to choose from.
In a legacy system, I was able to do the whole formula in MS BASIC, but we found that PL/SQL didn't support some of the geometric functions that we needed (specifically ArcTan). We also found that even if it did, our various platforms (Win, Mac, Unix) would probably return different values for the same calculations because of the precision of the CPU floating point processor. We decided therefore to do all the processing on the host using Pro*C and allow ANSI C to do the calculations.
If I remember right, we stored the values in a number(8,4) for -NNN.NNNN formatting.
FYI,
Chad (chad_at_hjfhiv.hjf.org)
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >>Has anyone out there dealt with issues involving geographic coordinates >>(i.e. Lat/Long coords) within an Oracle database. i.e. schemes for>>storing, searching, and retrieving records based on a lat/long >>coordinate.
Oracle is addressing this technology (spatial/temporal data and relational databases) with a new product call Oracle Multi-Dimension. To avoid flames and not market on this list I am suggesting that you talk to your rep to get the appropriate literature that describes this new technology. If there is an overwhelming interest in the technology perhaps I can post a summary of the product including its features and functions.
Regards
Doug
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:00:41 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Re: OFA White Paper
Bess, please mail me one too.
Paul Dorsey
Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
08648
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:38:18 -1000 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Johnson <J.Johnson_at_BUSADM.CBA.HAWAII.EDU> Organization: College of Business Administration Subject: Looking for MAC frontend
I'm looking for a frontend, Oracle or 3rd party to access our Oravle7 for netware version 7.15. Up til now we have always used PC's, running forms 3. I'm not sure if there is a special SQL*Net for the Mac.
What products do you recommend?
Thanks in advance,
Jim
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 21:53:17 -0500
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From: Hal Wigoda <hwigoda_at_MCS.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for MAC frontend
In-Reply-To: <m0qiu4q-000BaYC_at_mercury.mcs.com> from "Jim Johnson" at Sep 8,
94 02:38:18 pm
> I'm looking for a frontend, Oracle or 3rd party to access our Oravle7
> for netware version 7.15. Up til now we have always used PC's,
> running forms 3. I'm not sure if there is a special SQL*Net for the
> Mac.
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:22:02 GMT+0100 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ray Gardener <R.Gardener_at_SHEFFIELD-HALLAM.AC.UK> Organization: SHEFFIELD HALLAM UNIVERSITY Subject: Re: ORACLE Manager
Anyone know if ORACLE MANAGER is compatible with ORACLE 7.0.16?
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:51:48 EDT
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From: Bess Protacio <bess_at_AIP.ORG>
Subject: Re: Request for copies of OFA Paper
Because of the overwhelming interest in the OFA paper I emailed the author to see if he can post his article. The response is as follows:
>>>>>> start of message
....................... The four-year-old paper you mention has beenreplaced by an updated, much more thorough treatment entitled The OFA Standard, Oracle7 for Open Systems. This new document is available from Oracle Corporation through standard documentation ordering channels by referring to part number A19308-1. I'll welcome any questions or comments you have.
I'll investigate publishing a PostScript version of the original "OFA for a Growing..." but it will be a few weeks before I'm in one place long enough to accomplish that.
Thanks for your continued interest.
Cary Millsap
Practice Director
Oracle Services Advanced Technologies
>>>>>>> end of message
I will however send out copies of the document I have to all who requested it as of 9/9/94 at 8:47 A.M.
Bess Protacio Tel No. (516) 576-2325 American Institute of Physics FAX No. (516) 349-7669500 Sunnyside Blvd.
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:58:34 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Lopatosky <ccjlopa_at_GATEKEEPER.DDP.STATE.ME.US> Subject: Maximum Datafile Sizes for Oracle 7.1
I am building a database in Oracle 7.1. Some of the tables are large, being in the range of several hundred megabytes, closing in on a gigabyte. My question is on the sizing of the datafiles. I had heard (maybe incorrectly) that in Oracle6, datafiles shouldn't really be more than 100M due to performance concerns. Is this (still) true for Oracle 7.1? Does anyone have any comments on this?
Thanks in advance.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | /^^\ James Lopatosky, Database Specialist | | | | State of Maine, Division of Data Processing | | | | State Office Building, Station #61 | | / \ Augusta, ME 04333 U.S.A. | | | ___/ Voice (207) 287-3631 Fax (207) 287-6528 | | | __/ ccjlopa_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us | | |/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:29:58 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andy Townsend <townsend_at_SETA.COM> Subject: Re: Looking for MAC frontend
VB!! Easy & Powerful.
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:43:17 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Lopatosky <ccjlopa_at_GATEKEEPER.DDP.STATE.ME.US> Subject: Maximum Datafile Sizes for Oracle 7.1 (fwd)
I am building a database in Oracle 7.1. Some of the tables are large, being in the range of several hundred megabytes, closing in on a gigabyte. My question is on the sizing of the datafiles. I had heard (maybe incorrectly) that in Oracle6, datafiles shouldn't really be more than 100M due to performance concerns. Is this (still) true for Oracle 7.1? Does anyone have any comments on this?
Thanks in advance.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | /^^\ James Lopatosky, Database Specialist | | | | State of Maine, Division of Data Processing | | | | State Office Building, Station #61 | | / \ Augusta, ME 04333 U.S.A. | | | ___/ Voice (207) 287-3631 Fax (207) 287-6528 | | | __/ ccjlopa_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us | | |/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:47:00 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "SOCHA, MARLA" <SOCHA+c_MARLA%A1%Mallinckrodt_at_MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Looking for MAC frontend
> I'm looking for a frontend, Oracle or 3rd party to access our Oracle7
> for netware version 7.15. Up til now we have always used PC's,
> running forms 3. I'm not sure if there is a special SQL*Net for the Mac.
>What products do you recommend?
>Thanks in advance,
>Jim
We are currently evaluating ad hoc query tools and application develop environments. Our major need is to have the same applications run on both Window PCs as well as Macintoshes. Our user base is about 50-50 on these platforms. The query tools we are looking at are Andyne's GQL and Business Objects. The application development environment we are looking at is Uniface.
Yes there is a SQL*Net for the Mac, but we are also looking at using other protocols such as DAL or TCP/IP.
Marla
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:57:00 -0400
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From: Kevin Kline
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@SMDELOIT.LANGATE.SPRINT.COM>
Subject: Oracle INI File Requirements & SQL*Loader
Hi y'all,
We're connecting to Oracle via a Powerbuilder front end. The
question, which also applies to Forms 4.0, is what are the client .INI
file requirements (win.ini, oracle.ini. odbc.ini, config.ora, etc.)
and what files or path designations are needed to provide the clients
with full access to Oracle messages? Do we need to distribute an
Oracle.msg file to each client? Are any other files needed for
messages or error codes, or can you designate a path to the server in
one of the .ini or .ora files?
Additionally, can anyone tell me from direct experience if SQL*Loader
is significantly faster than a load program written in Pro*Cobol?
We're leaning toward Pro*Cobol simply because it would unify our
application into one program. However, if SQL*Loader (without the
direct=true) is a good deal faster, it might change our direction.
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 09:31:48 MST
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From: Kent Graziano <graziank_at_TCPLINK.NREL.GOV>
Subject: ORACLE Jobs in Colorado
If your interested in working in Colorado in a reasonably paced (40
hrs/week), casual (jeans,T-shirts, and sandals allowed), and fun
environment, note the following:
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in Golden,
Colorado, is the nation's primary federal laboratory for
research, development and evaluation of renewable energy and
technology.
MIS Analyst (Ref #E3360-333)
We are looking for an MIS Analyst to lead development and
support of the NREL data warehouse. Qualified candidates
must be familiar with relational database concepts, SQL,
Windows and Windows tools including spreadsheets. They must
also possess strong leadership and customer service skills.
The job requires a BS degree in Computer Science, Business
Administration or similar field or equivalent experience.
Also required is four to six years of applications
development experience including two to three years of
client/server software development using GUI interface tools
and either Oracle or PowerBuilder. Previous experience with
decision support systems and ad hoc reporting tools is
a plus.
MIS Programmer (Ref #E3360-401)
Be part of a dynamic team supporting and enhancing Oracle
Financial Applications in a client/server environment. The
job requires a BS degree in Computer Science, Business
Administration or similar field or equivalent experience.
Also required is four to six years of programming experience
with a strong business and financial background. Prefer
experience with Oracle Tools. This is a good opportunity to
learn Oracle Financial Applications. Prior experience with
these applications is a plus.
We offer an excellent compensation and benefits package.
Please send your resume to: Human Resources Office, NREL,
Ref. #E3360-___, 1617 Cole Blvd., Golden, CO 80401.
Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. We are an
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From: Rafael Salinas Sangines <RSALINAS_at_ITESMVF1.BITNET>
Subject: Oracle front end
We had evaluated a lot of front ends for oracle, from the oracle tools (CADE, F
orms, Report Writer) to other 3rd party vendors (Sybase tools, Powerbuilder, Ga
in Momentum, and others). We choose powerbuilder to develop our applications be
cause it is the best one (on our opinion). We based our evaluation on the follo
wing concepts ( ** notice that we work abroad and some of the services may vary
from the ones offered in the states so they might apply a different percentage
).
Tecnichal Support 12 %, Hardware requirements 7%, Price 7%, User interface 13%,
Hardware platform, Development speed 15%, Report Writer Utility 15%, Graphics U
tility 8%, Convenience for creating documentation 7%, Online Help 8%, Convenien
ce for creating an interface with other programs or 3GL's 8%.
The first 4 products according to our evaluation were :
1 Powerbuilder (Available for PS's) Graphic
2 DataEase (Available for PS's) Graphic
3 Kappa (Available for Unix and PS's) Graphic
4 Speedware (Available for Unix and PS's) Text & Graphic?
Hope this helps. If you have any questions please contact us directly.
Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey (ITESM)
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:04:08 -0700
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From: Brad Eacker <beacker_at_TOMAHAWK.ENGR.SGI.COM>
Subject: Re: Maximum Datafile Sizes for Oracle 7.1
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri,
09 Sep 94 08:58:34 EDT." <199409091303.GAA29049_at_sgi.sgi.com>
James Lopatosky <ccjlopa_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us> writes:
>I am building a database in Oracle 7.1. Some of the tables are large,
>being in the range of several hundred megabytes, closing in on a
>gigabyte. My question is on the sizing of the datafiles. I had heard
>(maybe incorrectly) that in Oracle6, datafiles shouldn't really be more
>than 100M due to performance concerns. Is this (still) true for Oracle
>7.1? Does anyone have any comments on this?
Having just completed an operation here regarding a database that
contained more than 200 GB using 1.6G raw disk data files in Oracle 7.1,
I think that Oracle is well able to handle large data files. I think what
James may be referring to is the amount of seeking that is likely to go
on when the particular disk is accessed. This seeking can slow down the
number of reading and writing operations that can occur in a second. One
way that we found to get better performance out of Oracle is to spread
the tablespace associated with a particular table over more spindles, ie
disks. This allowed us to have many more IOPS (i/o per second) going on
in parallel. Increasing the number of IOPS is especially useful when we
started using the Oracle parallel operations.
Brad Eacker (beacker_at_sgi.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:19:33 BD3
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From: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS_at_BRFUEL.BITNET>
Organization: UNIVERSIDADE ESTADUAL DE LONDRINA - PARANA - BR
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
In-Reply-To: Message of Wed,
7 Sep 1994 16:46:26 -0500 from <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
|o|
|o| From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
|o|
|o| Marcos --
|o| No, I wasn't referring to rollback segments ... my concern was that
|o| unless your method was running in autocommit, that if more than one
|o| user simultaneously grabbed the next in a sequence, that duplicates
|o| may arise; and if you are running in autocommit, gaps would appear if
|o| the user chose a different key id ( as was the original requirement
|o| ).
I hate not having an ORACLE installation to check how things really are .... I think I'll have to wait until I have one and then I'll post another message on this subject. For the moment, I'll only explain myself ... I have at hand a PC MAGAZINE, dated 1993 Dec, which covers some RDBMS, including Sybase, Ingres, Oracle and others ( Brazilian edition ). Well, quoting the magazine ... " one of the most debated points in the Data Base industry is the correct approach to assure DB read and write consistency ... Most of the RDBMS apply read-only locks to achieve this goal. ORACLE has a different approach thru a proprietary method which assures that the DB looks exactly the same along all the duration of a transaction. ORACLE achieves this by USING ROLLBACK SEGMENTS. DB updates ARE NOT locked by the sharelevel locks, BUT IF A TRANSACTION FINDS OUT AN UPDATED ROW ( UNCOMMITTED ) WHILE THE DB IS BEING BROWSED, IT LOOKS AT THE ROLLBACK SEGMENTS TO RETRIEVE WHAT THE ORIGINAL ROW VERSION WAS ....". That's why I supposed you were concerned about rollback segments when you raised your point. THEY ARE THE REASON WHY YOUR POINT MAKES SENSE. And what is said in that PC MAG article makes sense too. I work with IBM's SQL/DS SGBDR and in that environment read-only locks are used to assure users don't retrieve uncommitted updated rows from the DB. Users have to wait until those updates are either committed or rolled back if they intend to retrieve such data. However, strangely enough, if the uncomitted row operation was a DELETION the users don't have to wait .... the uncomitted deleted rows simply don't exist for them. So, I DO SUCCESFULLY USE THAT SCHEMA IN PRODUCTION. My previous question remains unanswered: does ORACLE provide a way to have a table or tablespace without rollback segments assigned to it? If so, what is ORACLE's behavior related to attempts to retrieve uncommitted updated rows ????
The workaround to have the method still valid if the user may change the key in the screen is very simple ( I'm supposing the method works the way I first described it ):
|o| |o| Let me explain why I brought up the point... if two users are |o| simultaneously accessing a table and one of them deletes a record, |o| the other one still sees the record there until the first one commits |o| his/her transaction. After the commit, the next select would not |o| show the record available (but if the key id is already on the |o| screen, that doesn't help you immensely). If you are doing this |o| method in production, you may want to test this at your site. |o|
I got your point| What I didn't get is WHY ORACLE goes such a way and I was trying to figure out what ORACLE feature can be blamed and if it can be disabled and under which circuntances. That's all for now Bambi. Best regards and thanks for your ideas ....
|o|
|o| Even so, the paradigm is clever, and would probably be useful in
|o| cases where sequences would not be appropriate (e.g., the selection
|o| of approved lot numbers or randomly generated key ids).
|o|
|o| Best of luck,
|o| Bambi.
|o|
...
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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 13:02:59 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM> Subject: Oracle 7 Question
Greetings, All!
Does anybody out there know how to change the name of an instance in Orav7? Any suggestions are appreciated!
TIA,
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 14:45:10 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: almquist paul <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US> Subject: Re: Key Mapping for ProComm >
>
>
I did change the mapping of PageUp, PageDown, Insert, Delete, Home, and End on the edit keypad to match the PC keyboard. (Home became Find and End became Select)
This was done because there was one user pressing PageUP on the PC keyboard trying to go back thru some records and ended up deleting them instead because the vt220 key in that position on the keyboard is the remove key which maps to the delete record function in SQL*Forms.
The remapping was done in Oraterm, not Procomm because the user was a LAN user using a different terminal emulator, not dial up. Of course a keyboard template helps too.
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Re: Ad-hoc tools.
You should also look at SQL*Assist from Software Interfaces. It is a
superior product.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 17:18:57 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Carlos Abarca Rivera - Oracle Costa Rica <cabarca_at_CR.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
Just one comment...
Marco writes:
"|o|
|o| Let me explain why I brought up the point... if two users are |o| simultaneously accessing a table and one of them deletes a record, |o| the other one still sees the record there until the first one commits |o| his/her transaction. After the commit, the next select would not |o| show the record available (but if the key id is already on the |o| screen, that doesn't help you immensely). If you are doing this |o| method in production, you may want to test this at your site. |o|
I got your point| What I didn't get is WHY ORACLE goes such a way and I was trying to figure out what ORACLE feature can be blamed and if it can be disabled and under which circuntances. That's all for now Bambi. Best regards and thanks for your ideas ...."
In Oracle, readers don't interfere with writers and viceversa. BUT, if you are planning to read something to update it (delete it in this case) you should do a SELECT ... FOR UPDATE (to lock the row) and then a DELETE. So, in this manner the SECOND user that tries to obtain a ROW-LOCK that's already in use won't be able to READ that row -- uniqueness guaranteed. A ROLLBACK would free up this lock and other user could use it -- no wasted sequences guaranteed. If the second user finds the next sequence LOCKED should try for other, and other until find one free -- concurrency guaranteed. Marco, I like your idea.
As for Bambi, yes if one user deletes a row, another user would still be able to see it (rollback segments) but he WON'T be able to delete it. DML's implicitly apply exlusive row locks.
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From: Eric Pierce <PIERCEED_at_SSWDSERVER.SSWD.CSUS.EDU>
Subject: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
Hi,
Does anyone have any insight on setting up the Oracle Windows tools to work on a TCP/IP network (HP Unix Server) from a PC running SQL*Net? Does Oracle support funky shareware protocols like Trumpet WinSock? If not, do they work anyway?
Where do you look for the install docs, in the server documentation package or the Windows tools documentation package? Is there separate "Setting Up SQL*Net" documentation like for my SPX/IPX Netware product?
How do you use two different Oracle servers via two protocols from one application?
(If someone form Oracle personally responds to my Internet address I won't tell on you, PROMISE!!!)
Thanks, have a good weekend whatever your timezone.
Eric D. Pierce
Database/Network Technician
Cal. State Univ., Sacramento
Internet: PierceED_at_CSUS.edu
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 11:39:07 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Rich Pickett - Sys. Dev." <OIT_RICH_at_JMUVAX.BITNET> Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
Eric,
Oracle SQL*Net support for Windows is provided by DLLs that are included with the SQL*Net products for Windows. We utilize a number of ODBC and IDAPI compliant applications to access Oracle DBs very successfully utilizing SQL*Net (TCP/IP or SPX) and the appropriate ODBC or IDAPI drivers. In the past Microsoft would include the Oracle ODBC driver with applications, now you have to purchase it. In these cases you do not need Winsock dlls.
The communications protocol (TCP/IP or SPX) can be selected when you connect to Oracle through your application. This is accomplished with the connect string parameter (X:oracleserver for SPX, T:oracleserver for TCP). This assumes that your protocol stack can accommodate both TCP and SPX.
I understand that Oracle has some multiprotocol SQL*Net gateways, but I'm unaware of any client apps that can handle them simultaneously.
I hope this helps.
Rich Pickett Voice: 703-568-3261 Director, Systems Development FAX: 703-432-0373 James Madison University E-mail: oit_rich_at_vax1.acs.jmu.eduHarrisonburg VA 22807
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 10:16:22 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sandor Nieuwenhuijs <SNIEUWEN_at_NL.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
In-Reply-To: NLUNIX:@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU's messag e of 09-10-94 11:39
You mention: "In the past Microsoft would include the Oracle ODBC driver with applications, now you have to purchase it."
This is not true, the Oracle7 ODBC driver is available free of charge in the Compuserver Oracle Forum. I think some organizations also make it available on Internet.
Sandor Nieuwenhuijs
Oracle Netherlands
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 15:24:17 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Rich Pickett - Sys. Dev." <OIT_RICH_at_JMUVAX.BITNET> Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
Sandor,
While the Oracle ODBC driver may be available from other sources, it is true that Microsoft does not include it with current releases of their products (example: Access 2.0) and includes an order form to purchase it from them. If you know an Internet source that may be helpful to others on this list.
Rich Pickett
James Madison Univ.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:38:36 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Scott Hollows <shollows_at_AU.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Oracle 7 Question
check out the CREATE CONTROLFILE command.
recreating the control files enables you to change the database name at the same time.
Make sure you backup the database before doing this (just in case)
Scott Hollows
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Greetings, All!
Does anybody out there know how to change the name of an instance in Orav7? Any suggestions are appreciated!
TIA,
Bambi.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:00:44 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Juliusz Jezierski <jeziersk_at_ICS.TUP.EDU.PL> Subject: Open Gateway Techology Products
Hi!
We are interested in the following products:
Transparent Gateway Developers Kit (File Based Access Method Services),
Procedural Gateway
for IBM 4381 - MVS/XA platform.
The question is: Are these products suplied? What is cost of them?
We can NOT obtain this information from our local Oracle's representative :-(((.
We'd be very thankful for any information.
Juliusz Jezierski
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Hi Juliusz,
I don't know either, but I've passed you're question on to our local Oracle rep.
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> Subject: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
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Eric,
I am running SQLNET on a PC with Windows using the Rutgers CUTCP and the Trumpet winsock. I have not had any problems. If I remember corrcetly, when I installed SQLNET, I used the option that said I was using FTP Corps version because CUTCP was not an option. I am using this to talk to an Oracle V6 on a Sun.
Sorry I can't be of more help but I do not know anything about the other products you mentioned.
Best of luck,
John E. Carlson
Rocketdyne Division
Rockwell International
Canoga Park, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:09:15 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Richard Turnock <usqknlqn_at_IBMMAIL.COM> Subject: Oracle Multi-dimension ----------------------- Mail item text follows ---------------
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From: Richard Turnock usqknlqn_at_ibmmail.com Subject: Oracle Multi-dimension
We are evaluating products like Impromptu, Powerplay and Essbase. We are interested in multi-dimensional database query tool to do drill down analysis. We need decision support tools for end users. Will the new Oracle product "Multi-dimension" compete with the products listed above?
Richard Turnock usqknlqn_at_ibmmail.com
Information Systems
Portland General Electric
Portland, Oregon, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 09:54:05 PST8PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Eric Pierce <PIERCEED_at_SSWDSERVER.SSWD.CSUS.EDU> Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibi
Thank you all for your informative responses.
Eric D. Pierce
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:54:58 EST
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From: Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_ROCKVILLE_at_CCLINK.TFN.COM
Subject: Quarter-end date answer
It seems that the most efficient answer to the quarter-end date
problem is:
select TRUNC(sysdate,'Q')-1 from dual;
it avoids all of thbe rounding problems caused by the ROUND functions.
Any date is converted to the start of its quarter by
TRUNC(sysdate,'Q').
Thanks to everyone who helped.
Jim_Preissler_at_CDA_Rockville_at_Thomson.com
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From: "Jenkins, Eric S." <JenkiE_at_JLSC.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
Eric
We have recently started using SQL*Net V1 with winsock from FTP. (We upgraded from FTP PC/TCP ver. 2.11 which requires a TSR). So far we have experienced no problems.
Oracle supports this version of windows sockets (FTP PC/TCP version 2.2). The installation manual lists support of other vendors using windows sockets including Frontier Technology, IBM DOS TCP/IP, NetManage Chameleon TCP, and SUN PC-NFS (ver. 5.0).
My guess is that it would work ok with Trumpet winsock.
SQL*Net installation, setup, and configuration is described in the Oracle document "Setting Up SQL*Net TCP/IP for Windows". (Part # A10458-3). This doc comes with SQL*Net for Windows Ver. 1.1.
When connecting to a database, the protocol is identified in the host string portion of the connect command. Both protocols should be supported by your stack.
Eric Jenkins - jenkie_at_jlsc.wpafb.af.mil
Computer Science Corp.
Joint Logistics System Center
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
Hi,
Does anyone have any insight on setting up the Oracle Windows tools to work on a TCP/IP network (HP Unix Server) from a PC running SQL*Net? Does Oracle support funky shareware protocols like Trumpet WinSock? If not, do they work anyway?
Where do you look for the install docs, in the server documentation package or the Windows tools documentation package? Is there separate "Setting Up SQL*Net" documentation like for my SPX/IPX Netware product?
How do you use two different Oracle servers via two protocols from one application?
(If someone form Oracle personally responds to my Internet address I won't tell on you, PROMISE!!!)
Thanks, have a good weekend whatever your timezone.
Eric D. Pierce
Database/Network Technician
Cal. State Univ., Sacramento
Internet: PierceED_at_CSUS.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:46:35 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Oracle 7 Question
In-Reply-To: Scott Hollows <shollows_at_au.oracle.com> "Re: Oracle 7 Question"
(Sep 12, 10:38am)
Scott --
Thanks for the tip...
Bambi.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:56:01 -0400
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From: "Mike Dieckmann (216)775-8795" <BMIKE_at_OCVAXC.CC.OBERLIN.EDU>
Subject: USA OHIO Oberlin College Analyst/Prog Oracle C
A N A L Y S T / P R O G R A M M E R
OBERLIN COLLEGE
The Irvin E. Houck Computing Center at Oberlin College seeks two energetic, congenial, organized, and self-motivated individuals to join the staff of its Administrative Computing Services group as Analyst/Programmers.
The Analyst/Programmer is a full-time Administrative and Professional Staff position responsible for the development and support of administrative information systems servicing the major administrative functions of the institution.
Oberlin's administrative computing infrastructure is based on enterprise-wide computing concepts using Oracle relational database technology at the core. VAX/OpenVMS is the primary central computing environment, with client Macintosh and Windows/DOS microcomputers communicating with the central systems over the institution's campus-wide ethernet network.
The candidates of most interest will display the following qualities:
Oberlin College is a highly selective liberal arts college of 2800 students located in the rural environment of northeastern Ohio, yet having convenient access to metropolitan Cleveland. The college provides a competitive salary commensurate with experience, plus attractive benefits which include a generous pension program, medical and long-term disability insurance, one month annual vacation, life insurance, and tuition support for children.
Screening of candidates will begin on October 24,1994 and will continue until the positions are filled. Applications, including a complete resume, references, and salary requirements should be directed to:
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Oberlin College is an Affirmative Action, Equal Opportunity employer. Women and members of minority groups are particularly encouraged to apply.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 13:36:48 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Carlos Abarca Rivera - Oracle Costa Rica <cabarca_at_CR.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Oracle 7 Question
In-Reply-To: UNIX1:<@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>'s message of 12-Sep-94 10:38
The name of the INSTANCE can be changed if you change ORACLE_SID variable (in UNIX). Watch out for default initSID.ora and default control files.
Saludos,
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Technical Support Fax : (506) 296-1580
Oracle Costa Rica Oramail: cabarca.CR
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check out the CREATE CONTROLFILE command.
recreating the control files enables you to change the database name at the same time.
Make sure you backup the database before doing this (just in case)
Scott Hollows
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Greetings, All!
Does anybody out there know how to change the name of an instance in Orav7? Any suggestions are appreciated!
TIA,
Bambi.
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:00:26 BD3
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From: Marcos Assis Silva <ASSIS_at_BRFUEL.BITNET>
Organization: UNIVERSIDADE ESTADUAL DE LONDRINA - PARANA - BR
Subject: Re: Generating one-up number
In-Reply-To: Message of Fri,
9 Sep 1994 17:18:57 -0600 from <cabarca_at_CR.ORACLE.COM>
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|o| From: Carlos Abarca Rivera - Oracle Costa Rica
|o| <cabarca_at_CR.ORACLE.COM>
|o|
|o| Just one comment...
|o|
|o| Marco writes:
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|o| In Oracle, readers don't interfere with writers and viceversa. BUT,
|o| if you are planning to read something to update it (delete it in this
|o| case) you should do a SELECT ... FOR UPDATE (to lock the row) and
|o| then a DELETE. So, in this manner the SECOND user that tries to
|o| obtain a ROW-LOCK that's already in use won't be able to READ that
|o| row -- uniqueness guaranteed. A ROLLBACK would free up this lock and
|o| other user could use it -- no wasted sequences guaranteed. If the
|o| second user finds the next sequence LOCKED should try for other, and
|o| other until find one free -- concurrency guaranteed. Marco, I like
|o| your idea.
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|o| As for Bambi, yes if one user deletes a row, another user would still
|o| be able to see it (rollback segments) but he WON'T be able to delete
|o| it. DML's implicitly apply exlusive row locks.
|o|
Thank you very much Carlos. That's all I wanted to know.
I was getting really worried. I hope all of this can help the
subscriber who asked for ideas :-)))) Best regards ....
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 85:20:00 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Steve Sedor <ssedor_at_STLMPE-4.ARMY.MIL> Subject: SQL*PLUS help
With pause on and executing a select that fills more than 1 screen I can enter
ctrl c and the sqlplus prompt will be displayed. If I ask for help eg: help
describe; and find out what I want from the first or second screen and choose
to go back to the prompt a ctrl c puts me into a loop and I have to cancel
my telnet session to continue. Is there something I can do to avoid this from
happening.
Steve
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:14:24 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Cary Knoop <cknoop_at_US.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Multi-dimensional query tools
Could somebody explain what a multi-dimensional query tool is?
Cary Knoop
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:14:33 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Chad A. Tompkins" <CTOMPKINS_at_WRAIR__GUDE__1_at_MAIL.HJF.ORG> Subject: SQL*Loader and Bitmap Files
Is it possible to load bitmap (bmp, jpeg, tiff) files or any other binary data file into Oracle7 using SQL*Loader?
If not, could anyone share how they have loaded bitmap files into Oracle7? (e.g. Pro*C, 3rd party tools, et cetera).
Thanks,
Chad (chad_at_hjfhiv.hjf.org)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:45:29 CDT
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Subject: Re: SQL*PLUS help
In-Reply-To: <m0qkJse-00095HC_at_nuchat.sccsi.com>; from "Steve Sedor" at Sep 12,
94 5:29 pm
Steve,
I called Oracle tech support on that one and it is now a known bug, at least for Oracle 7.0.16 on DG/UX. It's supposed to be fixed in 7.1 but I have not verified that it is. I'd check with Oracle tech support for your platform.
Bill
Steve Sedor wrote:
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 08:24:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: Oracle Windows Tools (TCP/IP) Trumpet WinSock Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <94Sep12.162337edt.95682-2_at_mail.uunet.ca> from "Jenkins,
Eric S." at Sep 12, 94 04:39:00 pm
And we here are running SQL*Net version 1.1 for Windows with Chameleon, Novell Lan Workplace and IBM TCP/IP.
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From: Tim Wilson <tim.wilson_at_CI.RECH.LU>
Subject: Oracle Backups
We are currently running Oracle Vers 6.0.36 on a Unix SVR4 box with a 2 Gig exabye tape drive. We have over 3 Gig of database files but the exports only total around 400Meg at present (but this may increase greatly next year). We would like to be able to detect and restore selectively individual tables without interfering with good tables. The system should be automatic and intergrate with the backup of other unix files, and should have a speedy recovery. Am I wishing for the moon ?
Has anyone used, succesfully, the archive logs system ?
3. Is there an Oracle ftp site ? Are Oracle on the net ?
Tim Wilson Computer Division
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L-2925 Luxembourg Fax: 4303 2600
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13, 94 03:31:09 pm
> 1. Where is the oracle FAQ on the internet?
There Oracle FAQ is broken down into 6 areas/FAQs: Oracle Backups, Oracle DBA, Oracle General Info, Oracle Monitoring, Oracle Rollbacks and Oracle Users. They can be found at:
ftp site: ftp.uni-oldenburg.de
Path : /pub/unix/oracle
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Subject: Oracle Book
Hi,
Does anyone have experience with Oracle Book 1.0 or Oracle Book 2.0 ?
We have to develope an application with that tool and we have some
problems with images: BMP images don't appear like the original one when
we display the document with the browser.
Any sort of help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Rosita Bacchelli.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 11:56:22 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Maureen Williams <maureen_at_CRC.MIT.EDU> Subject: Part-time Oracle position, M.I.T.
We currently have a great opportunity for an ORACLE developer, here at M.I.T. in Cambridge, MA. If you are interested please follow the instructions below:
ORACLE DEVELOPER - PART TIME (20 HRS/WEEK) The Clinical Research Center at M.I.T. seeks an individual to help develop a system which manages the day-to-day operations of the Clinical Research Center. Responsible for all phases of program development from initial design to implementation, testing and user training. System will be implemented on a DECsystem with ULTRIX/UNIX, Motif and Pathworks for DOS. The position also requires assisting with UNIX and PC system management tasks.
REQUIREMENTS: A minimum of five years developing software using relational database systems, with at least two years experience with ORACLE. Experience performing database administration, performance analysis and tuning. A Bachelor's degree in Information Systems or Computer Science. Experience providing hardware and software technical support to PC and/or UNIX users. Must possess strong troubleshooting skills, teamwork, interpersonal, training and communication skills. Some lifting of equipment required.
Qualified applicants should submit two copies of both cover letter and resume referencing the proper Job No. 94-0552R to: Ramona Allen, MIT Personnel Office, Bldg. E19-239, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139-4307. MIT is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. MIT is a non-smoking environment.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 18:13:43 SET Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Rosita Bacchelli <AVENUSR_at_ICINECA.CINECA.IT> Subject: Oracle Book
Hi,
does anyone have experience with Oracle Book 1.0 or Oracle Book 2.0 ?
We have to develope an application with that tool and we have some problems
with images: BMPs don't appear like the original one when we display the
document with the browser.
Any sort of help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Rosita.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 12:30:02 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Lyne Eaker (Phone#: 465-7636)" <EAKER_at_GRDA.AVC.CALGARY.AB.CA> Subject: PowerBuilder Desktop vs. ObjectView Desktop
In the Sept/94 issue of BYTE magazine (page 199) there is an advertisement for KnowledgeWare's ObjectView Desktop. Does anyone know anything about this product? How does it compare to PowerBuilder? I have PowerBuilder desktop and currently am under contract to build a system under windows, which must be able to use ORACLE at a later date. Should I try ObjectView or go with PowerBuilder?
Suggestions/comments are welcome.
Thanks!
...Lyne
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 09:52:02 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Rick Box (PG&E)" <RDB8%IC%DCPP_at_BANGATE.PGE.COM> Subject: ...no subject...
I'm looking for a few pointers on migrating from Oracle 6.0 Vines to Oracle 7.0 for SCO.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks
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From: Maureen Williams <maureen_at_CRC.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Part-time Oracle position, M.I.T.
We currently have a great opportunity for an ORACLE developer, here at M.I.T. in Cambridge, MA. If you are interested please follow the instructions below:
ORACLE DEVELOPER - PART TIME (20 HRS/WEEK) The Clinical Research Center at M.I.T. seeks an individual to help develop a system which manages the day-to-day operations of the Clinical Research Center. Responsible for all phases of program development from initial design to implementation, testing and user training. System will be implemented on a DECsystem with ULTRIX/UNIX, Motif and Pathworks for DOS. The position also requires assisting with UNIX and PC system management tasks.
REQUIREMENTS: A minimum of five years developing software using relational database systems, with at least two years experience with ORACLE. Experience performing database administration, performance analysis and tuning. A Bachelor's degree in Information Systems or Computer Science. Experience providing hardware and software technical support to PC and/or UNIX users. Must possess strong troubleshooting skills, teamwork, interpersonal, training and communication skills. Some lifting of equipment required.
Qualified applicants should submit two copies of both cover letter and resume referencing the proper Job No. 94-0552R to: Ramona Allen, MIT Personnel Office, Bldg. E19-239, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139-4307. MIT is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. MIT is a non-smoking environment.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 12:02:34 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Mike Campbell <mlcampb1_at_MIKEC.B8.INGR.COM> Subject: Undocumented init.ora parameters
A while back I recall seeing a post to comp.databases.oracle mentioning a table that contained a list of ALL init.ora parameters both documented and undocumented but can't seem to find that table now.
Does anyone know what that table name is? I assumed that it was something like V$PARAMETER, but this table only lists the current parameters. As I recall, all undocumented parameters began with an _ such as _corrupted_rollback_segments.
Thanks,
Mike Campbell Phone : 1-800-603-5500 x5472 Senior Customer Application Engineer Internet : mlcampb1_at_ingr.com Intergraph Corp. Fax : (205) 730-1110 Huntsville, AL 35894-0001 Mailstop : CR071 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:31:50 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Richard Turnock <usqknlqn_at_IBMMAIL.COM> Subject: Multidimensional Databases ----------------------- Mail item text follows ---------------
To: INTERNET--IBMMAIL
From: Richard Turnock usqknlqn_at_ibmmail.com Subject: Multidimensional Databases
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Cary Knoop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I asked the same question a few months ago. Essbase by Arbor Software and Powerplay by Cognos are two examples.
Per META Group:
65% of data warehouse users rate multidimensional capability a high priority.
RDBMS performs poorly with multidimensional query because of having to
join too many tables. Other vendors are Comshare, IRI and Pilot/DBS.
There are two solutions: 1. Extract RDBMS data into multidimensional structure
using Essbase or Powerplay. 2. Use client tool, like Impromptu. Other vendors
are Microstrategy, Information Advantage. Longer term the RDBMS vendors will
use object extensions.
We are evaluating demo disk of Essbase, we are testing Impromptu.
We have Oracle on DEC Alpha server and IBM RS/6000 connected to WAN. End users have Compaq PCs with Windows and DEC Alpha workstations. We are running OpenVMS on DEC Alphas, upgrading to 6.something soon.
Richard Turnock usqknlqn_at_ibmmail.com
Information Systems
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Portland, Oregon, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 14:58:01 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chuck Hasenauer <CHUCK_at_JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU> Subject: SQL*Forms 3.0 Question
I am running ORACLE7 and tools on a couple of OpenVMS platforms. I am automating several configuration management fuctions. I have several SQL scripts and DCL command files doing most of the work.
Does anyone know a way to access SQL*Forms 3.0 as a particular user, load an .IMP file, and then save it to the database all within a command procedure?
Chuck Hasenauer
Johns Hopkins University
chuck_at_jhudev.dev.jhu.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:56:44 BRAZIL
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From: Daniele Lara Nicacio / Belo Horizonte / Brazil
<daniele_at_ALMG-GW.ALMG.GOV.BR>
Subject: sqlplus
Hello,
I have a question. Is there anyway to format generic columns in sqlplus 3.1
and put it into glogin file?
Daniele
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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 15:15:34 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Foley <JFOLEY_at_BENTLEY.BITNET> Subject: Re: SQL*Forms 3.0 Question
Chuck,
You can insert a form into the database as a user using the IAC30 utility. Put a line in your command file like this:
$iac30 -i <.inp file> <form name> <userid/password>
This will insert the form into the database for the user specified. I hope that this helps.
Jim Foley
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Bentley College
Waltham, MA 02154-4705
(617)891-3419
JFOLEY_at_BENTLEY.EDU
Included text:
I am running ORACLE7 and tools on a couple of OpenVMS platforms. I am automating several configuration management fuctions. I have several SQL scripts and DCL command files doing most of the work.
Does anyone know a way to access SQL*Forms 3.0 as a particular user, load an .IMP file, and then save it to the database all within a command procedure?
Chuck Hasenauer
Johns Hopkins University
chuck_at_jhudev.dev.jhu.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:30:38 NZS Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ashok Sharma <asharma_at_TSSC.WLG.NEC.CO.JP> Subject: BACKUP support for SUN SPARC
Hi All
We ar currently reviewing our backup procedure and
evaluating a few products that provide backup for SUN/Unix
and multivendor networks.
What are clients using currently?
Any feedback would be a great help
Ta
ashok
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From: Kent Graziano <graziank_at_TCPLINK.NREL.GOV>
Subject: Re: SQL*Forms 3.0 Question
use the following command to load an .INP file into the FORMS 3.0
repository:
convform -i <inp filename> <form name> <username/password>
This will do the same as a LOAD and SAVE in the designer.
Note: on some platforms the command may be 'convform30'
Kent <graziank_at_tcplink.nrel.gov>
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Subject: SQL*Forms 3.0 Question
I am running ORACLE7 and tools on a couple of OpenVMS platforms. I am automating several configuration management fuctions. I have several SQL scripts and DCL command files doing most of the work.
Does anyone know a way to access SQL*Forms 3.0 as a particular user, load an .IMP file, and then save it to the database all within a command procedure?
Chuck Hasenauer
Johns Hopkins University
chuck_at_jhudev.dev.jhu.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 17:54:02 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: DIPESA_at_CARLA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: sqlforms 3.0 question
Chuck Hasenauer wrote:
<<
I am running ORACLE7 and tools on a couple of OpenVMS platforms. I am automating several configuration management fuctions. I have several SQL scripts and DCL command files doing most of the work.
Does anyone know a way to access SQL*Forms 3.0 as a particular user, load an .IMP file, and then save it to the database all within a command procedure? >>
You can use SQL*Forms (Convert) with the -i command line switch to convert an .INP file to a form in the database as follows:
iac30 -i <.INP filename> <formname> <username>/<password>
For example:
iac30 -i cust customer scott/tiger
Will create a form customer in the database from cust.inp
See SQL*Forms Designer's Reference p.23-3 for more info.
(Note - If iac30 is an undefined symbol, try convform.)
Good luck,
Tony DiPesa
MIT/OFMS
Standard disclaimers apply...
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:05:01 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Laura Carmickle <laura_at_NMC.EDU> Subject: Unix discussion list
Does anyone know of a Unix discussion list?
Thanks,
Laura Carmickle
Northwestern Michigan College
laura_at_nmc.edu
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:19:24 -0400
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From: Teresa A Larson <larson_at_SLED.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Re: Unix discussion list
In-Reply-To: <9409141310.AA08556_at_sled.gsfc.nasa.gov> from "Laura Carmickle" at
Sep 14, 94 09:05:01 am
> Does anyone know of a Unix discussion list?
I downloaded a list listservers back in April. The following lists appear to be unix related:
ATHENA ATHENA_at_ITOCSIVM ATHENA Progetto polo UNIX HEPIX-F HEPIX-F_at_FRCPN11 HEP Unix France I-UNIX I-UNIX_at_BITNIC Info-Unix list NADUNX-D NADUNX-D_at_DEARN German Node Administrators (NAD) UNIX ORLANDO ORLANDO_at_HUEARN Orlando UNIX tanfolyam UNIX-L UNIX-L_at_ALBNYDH2 UNIX-L HINTS using UNIX on the NYS Dept of+ UNIX-SRC UNIX-SRC_at_NDSUVM1 Unix-Sources Mailing List UNIX-TR UNIX-TR_at_TRITU UNIX Tartisma ve Yardimlasma Listesi UNIX-WIZ UNIX-WIZ_at_NDSUVM1 Unix-Wizards Mailing List UNXNAD-F UNXNAD-F_at_FRMOP11 Liste des 'Node ADministators' UNIX francais WVNUNX-L WVNUNX-L_at_WVNVM WVNET Unix Systems Group
Hope this helps.
Teresa Larson
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:36:40 -0400
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From: Nicholas Pacalo <npacalo_at_SONIC.URICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Unix discussion list
On Wed, 14 Sep 1994 laura_at_NMC.EDU wrote:
> Does anyone know of a Unix discussion list?
>
I beleive there is an AIX-L list for RS6000 folks, but I don't know the address of hand.
Nick Pacalo University of Richmond Voice: (804) 287-6404 npacalo_at_sonic.urich.edu Richmond, Virginia USA Fax: (804) 289-8890 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 17:46:46 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Margarida Oliveira <mo_at_CI.UMINHO.PT> Subject: SQL*Net problems
Hi there!
I have instaled SQL*Net 1.1 TCP/IP for Windows on a 386 Pc with FTP Software
TCP/IP 2.11.
But when testing the connection to a Unix Server ( with Oracle 7.0.12) using the
test utility that came with SQL*Net .
I got the following error message:
ORA-6108 NETTCP: Connect to host failed.
The target host was up and orasrv too. The connect string was correct also something like : mo_at_T:host/port:Seed
I would appreciate any help you can get me.
Thanks in advance. Best Wishes.
Margarida.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 18:04:27 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Margarida Oliveira <mo_at_CI.UMINHO.PT> Subject: SQL*Net problems
Hi there!
I have installed SQL*Net 1.1 TCP/IP for Windows on a 386 Pc with FTP Software T
CP/IP 2.11.
But when testing the connection to a Unix Server ( with Oracle 7.0.12) using the
test utility that came with SQL*Net .
I got the following error message:
ORA-6108 NETTCP: Connect to host failed.
The target host was up and orasrv too. The connect string was correct also something like : mo_at_T:host/port:Seed
I would appreciate any help you can get me.
Thanks in advance. Best Wishes.
Margarida.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 10:59:21 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Phil Mclean <csdpjm_at_BOGART.DOWLING.EDU> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
One thing you could try is logging onto sqlplus on the host side and run the following:
CONNECT username/password_at_t:(servername)/(portnum):(sid)
If you get an error, the problem is on the host side.
Phil.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:26:43 -0800
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From: Hien Bui <hien_bui_at_QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Unix discussion list
Reply to: RE>>Unix discussion list
On Wed, 14 Sep 1994 laura_at_NMC.EDU wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a Unix discussion list? >>
>I beleive there is an AIX-L list for RS6000 folks, but I don't know the >address of hand.
>Nick Pacalo University of Richmond Voice: (804) 287-6404 >npacalo_at_sonic.urich.edu Richmond, Virginia USA Fax: (804) >289-8890
The address of AIX-L list for rs6k is listserv_at_pucc.princeton.edu.
Hien Bui
Systems Analyst
California State University, The Chancellor's Office
Email: hien_bui_at_qm.calstate.edu
Voice: 310-985-9666
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 21:18:00 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Udo Becker <udo_at_BECKER.PING.DE> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
Hallo Margarida,
make sure you have got the necessary permissons on your UNIX-System : you need read- and execute-permissons on your oracle-homedirectory and all directories above for the world.
Udo.
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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 18:17:12 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Mike Deglialberti <miked_at_MIKED.MA02.BULL.COM> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
Make sure you have an entry like:
orasrv 1525/tcp
in the services file on both the server and the clients
Mike Deglialberti
Bull Worldwide Info. Systems
Technology Park
Billerica, MA
> Hi there!
>
> I have installed SQL*Net 1.1 TCP/IP for Windows on a 386 Pc with FTP Software
T
> CP/IP 2.11.
> But when testing the connection to a Unix Server ( with Oracle 7.0.12) using t
he
> test utility that came with SQL*Net .
> I got the following error message:
> >
>
>
>
>
> >> Margarida Oliveira
> =====================
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:39:46 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Scott Hollows <shollows_at_AU.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Fwd: Re: SQL*Net problems
I missed the first email on this issue, so Im not sure what the original question was. However : some recent versions of SQL*Net under Windows have had problems with connecting (Mainly SQL*Net TCP/IP)
Specifying the socket address in the connect string will often fix the problem
ie connect scott/tiger_at_t:my_host/1525:my_database
(The socket address is usually 1525, check your services file to see if yours is different. You should find an entry as follows in the SERVICES file :-
orasrv 1525/tcp
I am not sure if this affects other net drivers apart from TCP/IP, but it is worth a try
Regards
Scott Hollows
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Received: 09-15-94 00:15 Sent: 09-14-94 10:59From: AUUNIX:@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
One thing you could try is logging onto sqlplus on the host side and run the following:
CONNECT username/password_at_t:(servername)/(portnum):(sid)
If you get an error, the problem is on the host side.
Phil.
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 23:11:18 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: almquist paul <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US> Subject: convert30 -d failure
Using "convert30 -d ..." to drop a form from the database (oracle7) works when the owners userid and password are specified but fails when the userid SYSTEM and its password are specified (see below).
Any suggestions?? Is there some way to qualify the formname? I tried userid.formname but that didn't work.
convert30 -d all_tables all_tables system/.... --------- yields -->
SQL*Forms (Convert): Release 3.0.16.12.3 - Production
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
Dropping form ALL_TABLES from database.
FRM-10006: Form doesn't exist.
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At the end of each semester I have a bunch of student created forms
to delete. Using SYSTEM would make the task simple (automatable).
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Margarida,
On Sep 14, 17:46 you wrote:
>
he
> test utility that came with SQL*Net .
> I got the following error message:
> >
>
A silly question probably, but have you loaded MFTP.EXE in your AUTOEXEC.BAT? I recall that this program is a required "shim" for SQL*Net with PC/FTP.
Regards,
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 02:13:49 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Fred J. Nerk" <srinivas_at_CS.UTEP.EDU> Subject: Help Installation Oracle7.0.16
Hi Oracle Gurus
We are trying to load Oracle7.0.16 on SUN system (SunOS 4.1.2). We have the following directory structure.
$ORACLE_BASE /home2/dba/oracle
$ORACLE_HOME /home2/dba/oracle/product/7.0.16
The owner is oracle which is user in /home2/dba/oracle. oracle group is dba.
^^^^^^
We are trying to install (CASE designer) using INSTALLER we get the following
error.
File /home2/dba/oracle/product/7.0.16/dbs/crdbGOD.lst opened Thu Sep 15 01: Password:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges DBA-00302: not connected to a database DBA-00302: not connected to a database
Thanks in advance for ur help.
Regards
Srini
srinivas_at_cs.utep.edu
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:27:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: Oracle v7 and Paradox for windows
I am posting this on the list to see if any Oracle Users have done the following, because I will be doing the same thing soon!
I know this is not a ture Oracle RDBMS question, but this list is great for aswner on front ends to Oracle.
This orignal message as place on COMP.DATABASES.PARADOX by:
D-44137 Dortmund (Germany) e-mail: eppert_at_fant.ping.de -----------------------------------------------------
Please mail the list or me direct and I will forward all mail to the COMP.DATABASES with your replys and credits.
In short the question is has anyone been able to access stored procedure from Paradox for windows versions 4.5 or 5.0 using SQL LINK for Oracle.
Any ideas,fixes,comments or your wasting your time messages welcome.
More information below.
We've got a problem with SQL Link for Paradox. We are using an ORACLE7- Database Server (Ver. 7.0.16.6.0) and Paradox for Windows 4.5 (5.0 is not yet available in Germany) with the SQL Link 1.0. We use Paradox as a frontend to the Server. To improve speed we want to use Stored Procedures, which are stored and compiled on the ORACLE-Server.
It is no a problem to us to create a Stored Procedure at the ORACLE-Server and to execute it when we are at the console (respectively the SQL*Plus-Prompt on a client). But we are unable to start the execution of a Stored Procedure by a Paradox client, although it is possible to start anonymous procedures by Paradox.
Here are the code details:
The way we define a anonymous procedure(PARADOX) is to generate a ASCII-File (namend "proc1.sql") like this:
begin
open c1;
LOOP
FETCH c1 INTO c_idls, c_tlslfdnr, c_lsposlfdnr,
c_idartikel, c_liefmenge;
In Paradox we start the procedure by these lines:
After a few seconds the work is done and everything is ok.
Then we wanted to use this code with a Stored Procedure. We created a Stored Procedure on the Server named "storproc" with exactly the same body like above:
begin
open c1;
LOOP
FETCH c1 INTO c_idls, c_tlslfdnr, c_lsposlfdnr,
c_idartikel, c_liefmenge;
We tried to execute this procedure from Paradox with these commands:
if not db.open(":test:") then
msginfo ("Error", "....")
endIf
if not executeSQLString (db, "execute storproc") then
msgInfo ("Error",".....")
endIf
This fails. Unfortunaly there is no way to get the reason for the failure. We tried also with ";" at the end of the "execute"-line and further with a slash on the begining of the next line. Nothing was successful.
If you know, how to execute an Stored Procedure from within Paradox, please mail me or post in this group. If you have other experience with ORACLE7 and Paradox with SQL Link, good or bad, give me a short mail, please.
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From: Ray Ontko <rayo_at_ONTKO.COM>
Subject: Re: PowerBuilder Desktop vs. ObjectView Desktop
> In the Sept/94 issue of BYTE magazine (page 199) there is an advertisement for
> KnowledgeWare's ObjectView Desktop. Does anyone know anything about this
> product? How does it compare to PowerBuilder? I have PowerBuilder desktop
and
> currently am under contract to build a system under windows, which must be
able
> to use ORACLE at a later date. Should I try ObjectView or go with
> PowerBuilder?
Lyne,
We picked up a copy of ObjectView Desktop. It included a single-user version of Gupta's SQLbase, which we found rather interesting. SQLbase doesn't support some of the features that we've come to expect from Oracle (sequences, for example). We were able to develop some very useful applications using ObjectView and Oracle7 on our Netware server. Really quite easy to use, and fairly inexpensive to get started with. I have no idea what the differences are between the desktop version and the real mccoy, or between ObjectView and PowerBuilder, but I'm sure the vendors can tell you in detail.
Ray
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 08:36:51 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Wendy Woodhouse <wendyw_at_OVCNET.UOGUELPH.CA> Subject: SQL*Net Problem
I recently experienced the ORA-6105 error having upgraded from SQL*Net TCP/IP for DOS to the Windows version. I used the identical connect string as I had previously been using successfully, i.e.
T:my_alias:my_database
This resulted in the 6105 error. I went through the usual check list to verify that orasrv was running on the server and that I could ping the server from the client. I then substituted the full node address instead of the alias and it worked like a charm, i.e.
T:131.104.96.11:my_database
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 08:39:46 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Roger Crowley <rcrowley_at_TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
I had a similar problem with the Oracle7 ODBC driver. Perhaps you could investigate if this is the problem you're having. I gave the test program a connect string of: "t:thyme/1527:suntest" and when I looked at the log on the host side, it received a truncated connect string of: "t:thyme/1527:suntes". So I modified my hosts file (on the PC) to give the alias "thym" to the "thyme" server. Then I changed the connect string to "t:thym/1527:suntest" and the connection worked. I didn't research where the length limit was begin imposed ... but you might try the same. Hope this helps.
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 09:39:25 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Comments: <Parser> W: FROM field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Bess Protacio <bess_at_AIP.ORG> Subject: Stored Procedures
Has anybody out there come across some paper regarding source code control for stored procedures. I faintly remember seeing one a while back.
Thanks in advance.
Bess Protacio Tel No. (516) 576-2325 American Institute of Physics FAX No. (516) 349-7669500 Sunnyside Blvd.
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:07:06 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Tom Coker <tcoker_at_SCTCORP.COM> Subject: Removing table locks
Hi all,
For some unknown reason (I thing someone rebooted their PC while running a Forms 4.0 form) we had a lock on a table that we couldn't get rid of until the database was shutdown & restarted.
My question is, is there a clean way to get rid of a table lock w/o shutting down the database?
I looked through the sqldba Monitor but found no clear method of killing the lock.
We're running Oracle 7.0.16.
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:29:35 -0500
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From: TOM MERCADANTE <MERCADTF_at_SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA
Subject: Process hang on a drop table
Date sent: 15-SEP-1994 10:29:10
Hello All,
We are experiencing some pretty strange database hang conditions and I was wondering if anyone else has seen them.
First of all, we are running Oracle7 V7.013 on a VAX-VMS 5-5.2. We are running the Parallel server on a 6420 and 6610.
All was running reasonably well until last week.
We starting seeing some processes simply hang in mid stream. When we looked further, we found that they were stuck on a DROP TABLE command. When it does happen, the DROP TABLE command also hangs within SQLPLUS.
I developed the script below, and the results are interesting but so far pretty much useless.
select v$process.pid,v$process.spid,v$process.username ,
v$process.program program v$session.command command, v$session_wait.event from v$process,v$session,v$session_wait where v$session_wait.wait_time=0
The results show the following:
PID SPID USERNAME PROGRAM EVENT
---------- --------- --------------- -------------------- ---------------------
2 20E0014C ORACLE SRV.EXE pmon timer
3 20E0014D ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
4 20E0014E ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
5 20E00150 ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
6 20E00151 ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
7 20E00152 ORACLE SRV.EXE smon timer
8 20E00367 CSCOPER1 SDRIVER row cache lock
9 20E00154 ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
10 20E00155 ORACLE SRV.EXE rdbms ipc message
14 20E00261 XXXXXXXX ESQRBATCH.EXE db file
sequential read
10 rows selected.
This query indicates that pid #8 is hung waiting on a row cache lock. This process when killed indicates that it is attempting to drop a table.
My question is, what parameter in the INIT.ORA file do I change to allocate more locks?
Has anyone seen this before, and if you have, what did you do to fix it?
My conversion with Oracle support indicates that I should increase the GC_DB_LOCKS parameter. Before this problem surfaced, it was set to a value of 1000. It is now set to 10000, and the problem has not left us. The other suggestion was to upgrade to a newer release of the software which I will probably do.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Tom
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Tom Longo
Keane Federal Systems
@U.S. Geological Survey
M/S 518
12201 Sunrise Valley Drive
Reston, VA 22092-0001
703-648-5584
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:10:19 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chris Bowes <CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM> Subject: Recovery Problems
Hi,
I am attempting to recover from a media failure. My database system file, and 2 data tablespaces were deleted. I restored the file and started the roll forward procedure. The sqldba prompted me with each logfile it was going to use. The last one it showed, did not exist. It told me it needed log# 107 and my highest number is 106. A look at V$LOG shows that 107 is the current logfile sequence but it is not archived yet. How do I make Oralce realize that the log it is looking for is actually the current ONLINE redo log group? Is this due to something that I left out of the recovery procedure? This is only a test recovery of a non production system so if the answer is "try again but do this at the start..." then that can be done. I appreciate any help you can give, I called Oracle but being a non downed system, I don't expect to hear back from them this century. Thanks in advance,
CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 15:05:21 -0400
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From: Vijaya Saradhi Jeedigunta <saradhi_at_VODKA.DBCC.COM>
Subject: Re: Recovery Problems
In-Reply-To: <9409151846.AA09646_at_uu3.psi.com> from "Chris Bowes" at Sep 15,
94 01:10:19 pm
>
>> file, and 2 data tablespaces were deleted. I restored the file and started
> I am attempting to recover from a media failure. My database system
>
>
When sqldba prompts for the logfiles it looks for the sequence number which is already assigned but may hv not been archived. So try giving the one of the redolog file name i.e., either log1SID.dbf or log2SID.dbf or log3SID.dbf. whichever is current. you can attempt trial and error method too as if correct logfile name is not given sqldba gives an error message.
Hope it works.
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From: Udo Becker <udo_at_BECKER.PING.DE>
Subject: Copy LONG-Datafields
Hi,
does anybody know how to copy LONG-Datafields.
I have got two tables like this:
table t1
(
t1id number not null,
...
t1textfield LONG
)
and
table t2
(
t2id number not null,
...
t2textfield LONG
)
What I want to do is:
insert into into t1 ( t1id, ..., t1textfield) select t2id, ..., t2textfield from t2;
But it doesn't work because of the LONG-Fields. How can I overcome this problem?
Thank you in advance.
Udo.
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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:30:50 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Martin G. Bradburn" <MBRADBURN%NARDEB_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV> Subject: CASE ER Diagrammer problems using Exceed
Good Day, I am attempting to use Oracle CASE Designer 5.0 on VMS 5.5 accessed via TCP by Exceed 4.0. When firing up the ER Diagrammer the tool bar selections for select,entity are not selectable. The associated icons are missing and the lower portions of some of the text for the selections does not appear. I called Oracle and got the "3rd party tools" disclaimer/no help. Exceed is ruuning on a 386 in Windows. Anyone got any ideas. I tried changing the terminal def file using the command line switch to no avail.
Thanks,
Martin Bradburn
ROW Sciences
Narragansett, RI
mbradburn_at_nardeb.nar.epa.gov
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 17:26:51 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chris Bowes <CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM> Subject: Recovery Problem Solved
Hi,
Recovery problem solved. Thank you to Vijaya Saradhi Jeedigunta for the quick reply. We completed our test successfully and Oracle still hasn't returned my call to find out what the problem was. Thank God for the Oracle List. How lost I would be without it!!!
CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:16:45 -500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "David L. Dennis" <ddennis_at_LIBRA.AFSOC.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: Help Installation Oracle7.0.16In-Reply-To: <9409150322.aa03666_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil>
On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, Fred J. Nerk wrote:
> Hi Oracle Gurus
>
>
>> We are trying to install (CASE designer) using INSTALLER we get the following
> The owner is oracle which is user in /home2/dba/oracle. oracle group is dba.
> ^^^^^^
>
>
>
Srini,
Maybe this is a dumb question, but did you ALSO install the Oracle7 server? Since recently completing my first ever Oracle installation (including CASE) I have become aware of inter-relationships between Oracle products that were not readily apparent to a newbie, and were extremely confusing until I got a feel for Oracle's approach.
One such relationship is that Oracle stores its own information (configuration, data from CASE tools, etc.) in tables, and as such, needs the server to be installed AND RUNNING (don't worry - the installer cranks it up for you - if it can). The message you've received appears that EITHER the server isn't running, OR (and this again comes from MY recent experience) you haven't supplied the right password for the user that will own the CASE tables.
Actually, now that I think about this (and sorry for the rambling - it's late for me) the PASSWORD thing is probably the case. You might want to review the Installation & Configuration Guide (ICG as Oracle likes to call it) and pay CAREFUL attention to passwords and table owners (sys, system, and SYSCASE) - AND - if this is your first CASE install, YES you DO want to specify the CASE table owner!! (And don't forget to run the Post-installation scripts as specified in the CASE section of the ICG - I didn't, and I now have a sticky problem on my hands with the owner of a CASE applications data - another story completely.)
Incidentally, MY install was on an SS-20 running Solaris 2.3. In reading the platform-specific docs, it's apparent that there isn't a great deal of difference between them - Oracle-wise - so if you'd like to take advantage of my experiences, please feel free to e-mail direct. It would be nice to have a fellow struggling CASE DBA.
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
ddennis_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 10:09:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: Re: CASE ER Diagrammer problems using Exceed From: CBS%UK.AC.EARN-RELAY::EARN.SBCCVM::ORACLE-L 15-SEP-1994 21:34:52.19 To: HUET1
>Good Day, I am attempting to use Oracle CASE Designer 5.0 on VMS 5.5 accessed >via TCP by Exceed 4.0. When firing up the ER Diagrammer the tool bar selections
>Thanks, >Martin Bradburn >ROW Sciences >Narragansett, RI >mbradburn_at_nardeb.nar.epa.gov
Hi Martin,
I have remember somthing about recompling the DECWINDOWS (MOTIF)
fonts under exceed before you can do any real work.
I have not got the exceed manuels handy but I will check it out.
I will mail you later
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From: Ray Ontko <rayo_at_ONTKO.COM>
Subject: Re: Removing table locks
> For some unknown reason (I thing someone rebooted their PC while
> running a Forms 4.0 form) we had a lock on a table that we couldn't
> get rid of until the database was shutdown & restarted.
>
>
Tom,
I recently experienced a similar problem on a Sun/Unix box. It had nothing to do with a client/server application. Some process got killed that had a lock and the lock persisted. Our solution was to shut down the database and restart, but we also put a call in to Oracle support and got a patch tape. I wasn't the person who made the call so I can't give you any details, but you might give Oracle Support a call to see if the problem you encountered is addressed by the patch.
Ray
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:24:00 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Jenkins, Eric S." <JenkiE_at_JLSC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: SQL*Net Problem
If your TCP/IPvendor uses a host file, make sure you have the host identified properly in the hosts file.
(For FTP's TCP/IP we use :
111.22.333.444 host_name #Oracle server )
Make sure that the hosts file can be found.
We also found, after much hair pulling, that if the last line in the host file is the one you are referencing in the connect string, it must be followed with a <cr><lf>. i.e Add a blank line to the end of the host file.
We also found the same was true for the services file.
Eric Jenkins - jenkie_at_jlsc.wpafb.af.mil
Computer Science Corp.
Joint Logistics System Center
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH
I recently experienced the ORA-6105 error having upgraded from SQL*Net
TCP/IP
for DOS to the Windows version. I used the identical connect string as I had
previously been using successfully, i.e.
T:my_alias:my_database
This resulted in the 6105 error. I went through the usual check list to
verify that orasrv was running on the server and that I could ping the
server
from the client. I then substituted the full node address instead of the
alias and it worked like a charm, i.e.
T:131.104.96.11:my_database
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 10:17:24 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Roger Crowley <rcrowley_at_TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
Hi -- I had a similar problem with NETTEST.EXE (the test program distributed with SQL*Net). Perhaps your problem is related to the problem I had. I gave the test program a connect string of:
t:thyme/1527:suntest
which is what I use when connecting Unix to Unix database links. When I looked at the log file on the host side, it had received a truncated connect string of:
t:thyme/1527:suntes
So I modified my host file (on the PC) to give an alias of "thym" (since I couldn't change the port or the SID) as in:
111.222.333.444 thyme.x.y.z thym
Then I ran NETTEST again, changing the connect string to:
t:thym/1527:suntest
and the connection worked. I didn't research where the length limit was being imposed ... but you might try this technique. Hope this helps.
Roger Crowley (rcrowley_at_tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil) Naval Air Warfare Center - Aircraft Division Computer Sciences Directorate Bldg 1490
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 10:25:54 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Roger Crowley <rcrowley_at_TECNET1.JCTE.JCS.MIL> Subject: Re: SQL*Net problems
Hi -- I had a similar problem with NETTEST.EXE (the test program distributed with SQL*Net). Perhaps your problem is related to the problem I had. I gave the test program a connect string of:
t:thyme/1527:suntest
which is what I use when connecting Unix to Unix. When I looked at the log file on the host side, it had received a truncated connect string of:
t:thyme/1527:suntes
So I modified my host file (on the PC) to give an alias of "thym":
140.229.x.y nawcad...thyme thym
Then I ran NETTEST again, changing the connect string to:
t:thym/1527:suntest
and the connection worked. I didn't research where the length limit was being imposed ... but you might try this technique. Hope this helps.
Roger Crowley (rcrowley_at_tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil) Naval Air Warfare Center / Aircraft Division Computer Sciences Directorate Bldg 1490
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:19:56 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Pinchas Nisenson <62608_at_UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA> Subject: Who-should-see-it
FROM: Pinchas Nisenson
There is ongoing request from our application systems development community
( programmers ) to see all the Oracle system related information
i.e. DBA_xxx tables, V$yyy tables ( v$parameter ...) etc etc ...
Some even request to be included in the Unix DBA group.
Do you have a policy and procedures that describe
what should and what should not be accessible?
I would greatly appreciate you sharing with us your experience.
Thanks ...
Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447 University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 15:46:57 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gillam Ahn <gahn_at_BIH.HARVARD.EDU> Subject: Re: Copy LONG-Datafields
Udo,
LONG columns cannot appear in select lists of subqueries.
try COPY command.
>copy from userid/password_at_connect_string - >insert t1 - >using select t2id,,,,,t2textfield from t2
don't forget to 'SET LONG n' where n is between 1 to 2000000000(for oracle7) before COPY.
hopefully, gillam
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 23:21:06 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Fons Reijsbergen <Fons.Reijsbergen_at_KONBIB.NL> Subject: POWERBUILDER
Hello,
Does anyone know of a powerbuilder discussion list?
We are using Oracle And Powerbuilder and I want to subscribe both discussion list.
Fons Reijsbergen EMail Fons.Reijsbergen_at_konbib.nl
The Hague, Netherlands wwWWww
Tel +31 70 3140499 ([o][o])
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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:36:42 EDT
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From: Sridevi Tummala <stummala_at_SETA.COM>
Subject: few questions in forms4.0
hello people,
I have the following questions in forms 4.0 1. Is it possible to get a KEY-NEXT-BLOCK TRIGGER fired or call a PROCEDURE which has RESTRICTED BUILT-INS called from it, whenever cursor navigates out of a present block. It would be easy to do it when navigating through keys (i.e. use key-next block), but when we use mouse for navigation, I don't know how to do it. It may be possible, if we can keep track of mouse movements some how.
2. In Block's property sheet, there is one property of block called 'WHERE'. By specifying this, we can set the default where condition for search whenever it does EXECUTE - QUERY. We can set this property programatically. The problem is, I don't know whether it is possible to reset once it is set (i.e., at some point in the program, say at the begining of a trigger or procedure etc., I set this where condition, and I want to reset it at the end of that block of code.) I don't want to have any default where condition, once I leave a particular block of code. Is it possible and how?
3. I have a Master - Detail relation between two blocks. I want to populate s some records into some other Control block (which doesn't have a base-table) based on the records retrieved in the detail block. To be able to do this, I modified the code in ON-POPULATE-DETAILS trigger which will be generated automatically while the Mster-Detail relation is build. Is this the only way to do this, or there is any better way? If this is the only way, what if there are no Relations and still this kind of process to do? There is POST-QUERY trigger, and in its usage notes (in ORACLE FORMS REFERENCE MANUAL VOL 1), it says that, this trigger is used to 'populate control items or items in other blocks', I don't understand how could this be possible, sincee it doesn't allow restricted built-ins (to be able to populate items in other blocks, we need to use go_block() etc., restricted built-ins when the cursor is not at that record of the block where it need be entered or when more than one record need be entered. (in this case next-item trigger (sorry it built-in) need be used which is a restricted built-in))
I would be glad if I get any kind of feed back.
Thanks in advance,
Sridevi Tummala
(stummala_at_seta.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:49:08 EST
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From: Karen Huguley <khuguley_at_MAIL.CASI.STI.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Export
After exporting a user's schema objects, I examined the
table and index creation stmts in the expdat.dmp file.
I noticed that almost all of the indexes were going to be recreated
in the wrong tablespace! It seems that all indexes that were
NOT initially created using "CREATE INDEX...TABLESPACE HLP_IDX"
stmts were going to be placed in the same tablespace as the base
tables. It is not an access or quota problem - the importer has
an unlimited quota on both the data and index tablespaces. I also
verified that the original data and indexes were in separate
tablespaces. For example, I created a table using the following
syntax:
create table caller (
id number
constraint caller_pk_id primary key
using index
tablespace hlp_idx,
..... <other column definitions>
);
This syntax does, in fact, create the PK index in the HLP_IDX
tablespace; however, the export seems to ignore the "tablespace
hlp_idx" clause. It generates a PK constraint that specifies
the "HLP" tablespace (data). What is happening? Any information
would be greatly appreciated. BTW: I am running V7.0.12 on
SunOS 4.1.3.
K.Huguley
NASA Center for Aerospace Information
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Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 22:47:44 +0000
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From: BELCHER JACK <BELCHER_JACK_at_LILLY.COM>
Please Help:
A question has come up and I did not have a real answer. Does anyone know whether more than one database can be defined and run concurrently in a single instance? I would certainly appreciate any help or advice available.
Jack C. Belcher
Internet Address: BELCHER_JACK_at_Lilly.Com
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 19:40:27 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Export
In-Reply-To: Karen Huguley <khuguley_at_MAIL.CASI.STI.NASA.GOV> "Export" (Sep 16,
4:49pm)
Karen --
It has been my experience that if the tablespace is not specified in the create statement, the object is created in the default tablespace.
Hope this sheds some light...
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 21:14:08 -500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "David L. Dennis" <ddennis_at_LIBRA.AFSOC.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: Help Installation Oracle7.0.16 (fwd)
On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, Fred J. Nerk wrote:
> Hi Oracle Gurus
>
>
>> We are trying to install (CASE designer) using INSTALLER we get the following
> The owner is oracle which is user in /home2/dba/oracle. oracle group is dba.
> ^^^^^^
>
>
>
Srini,
Maybe this is a dumb question, but did you ALSO install the Oracle7 server? Since recently completing my first ever Oracle installation (including CASE) I have become aware of inter-relationships between Oracle products that were not readily apparent to a newbie, and were extremely confusing until I got a feel for Oracle's approach.
One such relationship is that Oracle stores its own information (configuration, data from CASE tools, etc.) in tables, and as such, needs the server to be installed AND RUNNING (don't worry - the installer cranks it up for you - if it can). The message you've received appears that EITHER the server isn't running, OR (and this again comes from MY recent experience) you haven't supplied the right password for the user that will own the CASE tables.
Actually, now that I think about this (and sorry for the rambling - it's late for me) the PASSWORD thing is probably the case. You might want to review the Installation & Configuration Guide (ICG as Oracle likes to call it) and pay CAREFUL attention to passwords and table owners (sys, system, and SYSCASE) - AND - if this is your first CASE install, YES you DO want to specify the CASE table owner!! (And don't forget to run the Post-installation scripts as specified in the CASE section of the ICG - I didn't, and I now have a sticky problem on my hands with the owner of a CASE applications data - another story completely.)
Incidentally, MY install was on an SS-20 running Solaris 2.3. In reading the platform-specific docs, it's apparent that there isn't a great deal of difference between them - Oracle-wise - so if you'd like to take advantage of my experiences, please feel free to e-mail direct. It would be nice to have a fellow struggling CASE DBA.
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
ddennis_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil
P.S. Sorry about the delayed response - I can only retrieve mail at odd
hours, and this reply bounced (twice!)
DD
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 17:14:42 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: June Moody <MJMOODY_at_AAMC.ORG> Subject: Oracle size estimation for DB hardware
RE: Oracle size estimation for DB hardware
We are evaluating the Oracle Server NLM 7.016, Forms 4.0.12, Report 2.0.13, Browser 1.09 and SQL Plus 3.1.1.
Before we can decide whether to purchase Oracle we have to know how much RAM and disk space to add to our COMPAQ Prosignia server so that we can run these Oracle applications concurrently. We have a number of questions for which we haven't been able to discover the answer (despite having: asked Oracle, read the Oracle Concepts and System Administrator manuals and consulted >>Oracle Performance Tuning<< by Corrigan and Gurry, as well as a number of national periodicals).
We would be very grateful for any information or references.
Is there an Oracle User's Group in the Washington D.C. area and would anyone know how I could get in touch with them?
Thanks in advance for any information you can share.
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 13:04:15 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Can 2 DBs live in one instance?
Actually, it depends more on your definition of a DB than anything
else. If the question is:
I have two sets of relational tables and applications that have no
overlap nor common functions nor data. Can they both live in thesame instance
?
Then the answer is yes, why not? If both of the DBs are small, having them in
the same instance might even be desirable for an administration
standpoint.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:12:44 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Erik L. Cohen" <70461.3271_at_COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: NOT NULL constraint problem
Greetings.
This is our situation:
We are moving data from a DB2 database to an ORACLE platform.
Since the facilities that are available are limited, we must use the
Platinum Reporting
Facility 123 type format extract to get the data to a PC. We cannot afford
a "DATAHUB" type
product, nor do we have access to a gateway that will enable synchronous
data
transfer. We are forced to do this manually.
The problem is that PRF does not distinguish between NULLs and
SPACES in text fields. In both cases the resultant comma delimited
token is two double
quotes (""). When we use SQL*LOADER, the token is interpreted as a NULL
value. This causes
the LOAD process to choke on NOT NULL constraint rules. Unfortunately, we
are
further limited to the DDL generated by the IEF, a CASE tool code
generator. This is required
because the application code that will run on the CLIENT is generated by
the IEF. We first
tried to change all the constraint rules to allow NULLs and this
allowed the data to be loaded.
As a DBA I cringe at the prospect of diddling with DDL because of a vendor
related problem.
We also were not aware of any impact this change could have on the
application code. The
second option was to use a text editor to change all occurrences of
"" to " "
(contiguous double quote to space seperated double quotes). This is a
highly impractical
approach since there are foreign keys that may legitimately have NULL
values, and to put spaces
in them would violate referential integrity. I have suggested writing a
program in C or REXX that
will parse each file with for valid NOT NULL tokens and change the token to
a space.
Some situation, huh? What do you think?
Thanks in advance for comments,
Erik L. Cohen (Double Bass Software) Reston, Virginia
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 00:55:06 +0200
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From: "Dr. G. Himmelmann" <himmelma_at_MAILER.UNI-MARBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: NOT NULL constraint problem
In-Reply-To: <9409172016.AA114253_at_Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE> from "Erik L. Cohen"
at Sep 17, 94 04:12:44 pm
Eric,
beside the transfer problem : if I catch it right it would
perhaps helpful to reorganize Your database as it seems not
normalized when having nulls before transfering it to another
system?
Guenther
(himmelma_at_mailer.uni-marburg.de)
>
>> Since the facilities that are available are limited, we must use the
> This is our situation:
> We are moving data from a DB2 database to an ORACLE platform.
>
> Thanks in advance for comments,
>
> Erik L. Cohen (Double Bass Software) Reston, Virginia
> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 01:42:20 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Dr. G. Himmelmann" <himmelma_at_MAILER.UNI-MARBURG.DE> Subject: Re: NOT NULL constraint problem In-Reply-To: <9409172016.AA114253_at_Mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE> from "Erik L. Cohen" at Sep 17, 94 04:12:44 pm
Eric,
beside some transfer problems: if I get it right You have lots
of nulls in Your db2-database? Would it be convenient to
have some reorganizing the database (into 5 th normal form
without any nulls!) just befor transfering it?
Guenther
>
>> Since the facilities that are available are limited, we must use the
> This is our situation:
> We are moving data from a DB2 database to an ORACLE platform.
>
> Thanks in advance for comments,
>
> Erik L. Cohen (Double Bass Software) Reston, Virginia
> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 07:35:01 MST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kent Graziano <graziank_at_TCPLINK.NREL.GOV> Subject: Re: Oracle size estimation for DB hardware Sorry, I don't have any of your database answers, but I do know about an Oracle Users Group in Washington DC. Contact Dale Lowery at 202-543-1817, or internet 72040.3345_at_compuserve.com. He should be able to help you Kent (graziank_at_tcplink.nrel.gov) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:33:59 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Akbar Shah </PN=ash/OU=venus/@GBF-BRAUNSCHWEIG.DBP.DE> Subject: Test
This is a test
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:34:10 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Juliusz Jezierski <jeziersk_at_ICS.TUP.EDU.PL> Subject: Re: Open Gateway Techology Products
>
> I don't know either, but I've passed you're question on to our local Oracle
rep.
>
> - Lex Sijtsma -
Tnx a lot, Lex :-))
Juliusz Jezierski Institute of Computing Science
Poznan University of Technology
tel. : +48 61 782592 ul. Piotrowo 3a
fax. : +48 61 771525 60-965 Poznan
e-mail : Juliusz.Jezierski_at_syriusz.ics.tup.edu.pl POLAND
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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:45:11 +0200
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From: Juliusz Jezierski <jeziersk_at_ICS.TUP.EDU.PL>
Subject: Re: Test
> From @plearn.edu.pl:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Mon Sep 19 16:43:21 1994
> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 10:33:59 -0400
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Test OK :-))
Juliusz
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:18:30 CST6CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andrew McAllister <MCALLISTER_at_NEPTUNE.GRAD.MISSOURI.EDU> Organization: UMC Graduate School Subject: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
Does anyone have the latest ODBC drivers for windows 3.1?
I would like to connect to Oracle 7 from Microsoft Access 2.0 using ODBC drivers. Anybody got them?
The 1.1a version of these drivers (for Oracle6) was free, can the same be said for the Oracle7 versions of these drivers?
Hope so,
Andy
Andrew McAllister -- Programmer/Analyst II
Office of Research, University of Missouri-Columbia
McAllister_at_neptune.grad.missouri.edu
Voice: 314.884-6237 (USA)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:30:05 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Pinchas Nisenson <62608_at_UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA> Subject: Oracle utilities.
FROM: Pinchas Nisenson
I have run into the following Oracle utilities :
utlbstat.sql and utlestat.sql
I wonder if anyone has used them.
I would like to get more information about them.
How do they work ?
What kind of overhead do they cause ?
Are these real time stats or just snapshots etc etc ...
Thanks for your help ...
P.S.
I have sent a note a couple days ago asking about
whether you have a policy that governs the access to Oracle / Dba
internals i.e. all the tables of the DBA.xxx & v$yyy nature.
I have not received even one reply. Is it because my note went into
a black hole or nobody really has a policy.
Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447 University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:55:54 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: SYS.DBA_XXXX views
> I have sent a note a couple days ago asking about
> whether you have a policy that governs the access to Oracle / Dba
> internals i.e. all the tables of the DBA.xxx & v$yyy nature.
> I have not received even one reply. Is it because my note went into
> a black hole or nobody really has a policy.
I assume you mean the SYS.DBA_XXXX views...
In general, our developers can see the common ones like DBA_USERS, DBA_TABLES, DBA_FREE_SPACE, DBA_INDEXES, etc. We find that it aids them in troubleshooting. We don't have an official policy on it, however.
We shy away from granting them access to the V$ tables, since our DBA's have difficulty understanding them. :-)
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca
> Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447
> University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361
>
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 19:05:49 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Re: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7VM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:18:30 CST6CDT
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> Organization: UMC Graduate School
> Subject: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
> X-To: ORACLE-L_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UB
>
We connect to Oracle7 via ODBC using the distribution that came with Access v 1.1. It works fine with Access v2 and Excel v5. You should be able to connect if you have that release. Last I heard, Oracle's own ODBC driver for Oracle7 was forthcoming... it may be out already.
Technically, there is a small fee for ODBC. I believe ODBC drivers are on ftp.microsoft.com, although I'm not sure. Perhaps someone else can verify that.
>
>
>
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 16:38:03 PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Keith Majkut <KMAJKUT_at_US.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
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Oracle makes their latest Oracle7 ODBC driver available for free in the ORACLE forum on CompuServe. I don't know if it gets duplicated elsewhere.
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> Organization: UMC Graduate School
> Subject: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
> X-To: ORACLE-L_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UB
VM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
> Does anyone have the latest ODBC drivers for windows 3.1?
>
We connect to Oracle7 via ODBC using the distribution that came with Access v 1.1. It works fine with Access v2 and Excel v5. You should be able to connect if you have that release. Last I heard, Oracle's own ODBC driver for Oracle7 was forthcoming... it may be out already.
Technically, there is a small fee for ODBC. I believe ODBC drivers are on ftp.microsoft.com, although I'm not sure. Perhaps someone else can verify that.
>
>
>
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:03:56 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ernest Simard <SIMARD_at_SONOMA.EDU> Subject: Re: Oracle utilities.
Hello,
I use them everyday. I run the BeginStat (BStat) job around 7am the EndStat job around 5:30 (Our normal working hours). The report will show how well your IO is spread and other various items relating to configuring your Init.Ora. Not much overhead involved some temporary tables are created and updated.
Hope that helps
Ernie Simard
DBA Sonoma State Univ
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 18:27:45 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Robert L Nerenberg <nerrlx00_at_CCMAIL.IASL.CA.BOEING.COM> Subject: powerbuilder contact
I'd like to get a demo of PowerBuilder, can someone please give me an 800 number for a sales engineer?
TIA
Bob Nerenberg
nerrlx00_at_ccmail.iasl.ca.boeing.com
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 22:50:55 -0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Robert L Nerenberg <nerrlx00_at_CCMAIL.IASL.CA.BOEING.COM> Subject: PB 800 number
I'd like to get a demo of PowerBuilder. Can someone please give me an 800 number?
TIA
Bob Nerenberg
nerrlx00_at_ccmail.iasl.ca.boeing.com
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 03:38:53 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ralph Orange <Ralph.Orange_at_DLR.DE> Organization: DLR MD-Informationstechnik Subject: NLM or Unix Version?
Hi oracles,
we are about to migrate our several small and not so small dBase- databases to oracle due to government-compatibility.
We are running a heterogenous environment with Novell- and Unix- Machines. The Oracle-clients will access the dbs mostly via MS- windows/forms4.
My question: What are the dis-/advantages of the Unix-Oracle-Version over the NLM-Version. Are there any recommendations.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you for reading this and have a nice day, Ralph
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:37:00 EDT
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From: Jeffrey Weiss <JRWEISS_at_SNYESCVA.BITNET>
Subject: 800 number for powersoft (powerbuilder) corp.
Powersoft Corporation
70 Blanchard Road
Burlington, MA 01803
1-800-395-3525
FAX (617) 273-2540
Hope this help. I got it off the back of one of their brochures
that I received while attending a demo.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:08:40 -0400
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From: Charles Isaacson <ccisaac_at_MTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Oracle utilities.
In-Reply-To: <199409192259.SAA07401_at_mtu.edu> from "Pinchas Nisenson" at Sep 19,
94 04:30:05 pm
We use the bstat/estat utilities 2-3 times a week. Even more if we are analyzing a performance problem.
We neither encourage or discourage the use of the dba views. Some of them have the 'all' or 'user' counterparts anyway. If you are assigning them dba type responsibilities then it would seem to require the tools of the trade. Could the tools be helpful in forms design or other applications?
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:33:08 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Danny Dills <danny_dills_at_OIT.PEACHNET.EDU> Subject: None 9/20/94 8:34
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:13:43 CST6CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andrew McAllister <MCALLISTER_at_NEPTUNE.GRAD.MISSOURI.EDU> Organization: UMC Graduate School Subject: Re: NLM or Unix Version?
> From: Ralph Orange <Ralph.Orange_at_DLR.DE>
> Hi oracles,
>
snip
> My question: What are the dis-/advantages of the Unix-Oracle-Version
> over the NLM-Version. Are there any recommendations.
>
Ralph,
Unix is nice because it is a pre-emptive multitasking environment (Netware is not-nlms must rely on each other to yeild cpu time like windows and Macintosh). I think having an oracle server also serve files and printing is a mistake. So you would have to buy a runtime server with Oracle.
Unixware 1.1 is relatively stable (ours has never locked up), but it is much more dificult to administer than a Netware file server and is very finniky about hardware. On the other hand you can run lots of other cool things on a unix box (like ftp sites, or www sites etc).
BEWARE!! You will NOT get any free technical support if you purchase either Oracle for Netware or Oracleware 1.0 (Oracle with Unixware AS 1.1). We bought Oracleware and had an installation problem (a major bug in Oracle) and it took a week to talk to someone at tech support, and 2.5 weeks to solve the problem. (After e-mailing the Senior VP for world wide support we have been treated well, but I think that you will find Oracle support spotty no matter what the platform.)
Oracle says that while they do give free support for all other products for 90 days, Novell/Oracle products are different. They (oracle and novell) want the resellers to have a oportunity to offer support (read that as screw you out of more money).
A service contract for one year was quoted to us (4 year state university) at $3000 which is 1/4 of our original purchase price. WOW!
Write or call if you would like to discuss further.
Andrew McAllister -- Programmer/Analyst II
Office of Research, University of Missouri-Columbia
McAllister_at_neptune.grad.missouri.edu
Voice: 314.884-6237 (USA)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 09:50:37 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gigi Suardi <gigi_at_SOFTINT.COM> Subject: LONG
hi there,
does anybody know of an effective way to load LONG
values in an ORACLE database?
sqlplus has screen limitations and powerbuilder
just truncates the fields to < 255 characters.
any input is welcome.
thanks.
gigi.
we have to learn the language of Nature
to be able to understand her.
Hundertwasser
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From: Maureen Williams <maureen_at_CRC.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Part-time Oracle position, M.I.T.
We currently have a great opportunity for an ORACLE developer, here at M.I.T. in Cambridge, MA. If you are interested please contact me at maureen_at_crc.mit.edu or follow the instructions below:
ORACLE DEVELOPER - PART TIME (20 HRS/WEEK) The Clinical Research Center at M.I.T. seeks an individual to help develop a system which manages the day-to-day operations of the Clinical Research Center. Responsible for all phases of program development from initial design to implementation, testing and user training. System will be implemented on a DECsystem with ULTRIX/UNIX, Motif and Pathworks for DOS. The position also requires assisting with UNIX and PC system management tasks.
REQUIREMENTS: A minimum of five years developing software using relational database systems, with at least two years experience with ORACLE. Experience performing database administration, performance analysis and tuning. A Bachelor's degree in Information Systems or Computer Science. Experience providing hardware and software technical support to PC and/or UNIX users. Must possess strong troubleshooting skills, teamwork, interpersonal, training and communication skills. Some lifting of equipment required.
Qualified applicants should submit two copies of both cover letter and resume referencing the proper Job No. 94-0552R to: Ramona Allen, MIT Personnel Office, Bldg. E19-239, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139-4307. MIT is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. MIT is a non-smoking environment.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 12:07:03 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sean Walmsley <sean.p.walmsley_at_HYDRO.ON.CA> Subject: V7 optimizer goal
Does anyone know if there is a way to set a sid to default its rule based optimizer to FIRST_ROWS? For a single session, you can do the following:
alter session set optimizer_goal = first_rows;
I've looked at the OPTIMIZER_MODE initialization parameter, but it only allows you to choose RULE or COST, not modify the goal of the cost based optimizer. Thanks,
--
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Reactor Safety and Operational Analysis Dept,
Ontario Hydro (H11-G26)
Tel. (416) 592 4608 Fax (416) 592 4966
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 12:15:02 -0400
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From: Maureen Williams <maureen_at_CRC.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Part-time Oracle position, M.I.T.
Hi everyone,
I thought I'd send out this job announcement in the hopes that one
of you might know an interested and qualified Oracle pro who would like to
work part-time here at M.I.T. in Cambridge. Part way through moving our
hospital services system from from Mumps to ORACLE, we lost our programmer.
It's a great position for the right person. If anyone is interested, they can
contact me via e-mail or follow the instructions at the end of the formal
announcement. Thanks,
Maureen Williams
ORACLE DEVELOPER - PART TIME (20 HRS/WEEK) The Clinical Research Center at M.I.T. seeks an individual to help develop a system which manages the day-to-day operations of the Clinical Research Center. Responsible for all phases of program development from initial design to implementation, testing and user training. System will be implemented on a DECsystem with ULTRIX/UNIX, Motif and Pathworks for DOS. The position also requires assisting with UNIX and PC system management tasks.
REQUIREMENTS: A minimum of five years developing software using relational database systems, with at least two years experience with ORACLE. Experience performing database administration, performance analysis and tuning. A Bachelor's degree in Information Systems or Computer Science. Experience providing hardware and software technical support to PC and/or UNIX users. Must possess strong troubleshooting skills, teamwork, interpersonal, training and communication skills. Some lifting of equipment required.
Qualified applicants should submit two copies of both cover letter and resume referencing the proper Job No. 94-0552R to: Ramona Allen, MIT Personnel Office, Bldg. E19-239, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139-4307. MIT is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. MIT is a non-smoking environment.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:20:58 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Alex Sirota <adapple_at_APPLE.COM> Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Subject: Informix <-> Oracle export/import of tables?
Hello folks.
I am cross posting this to both the Informix and Oracle newsgroups and listservs to get the largest possible audience for my inquiry.
I am currently designing a system that needs to extract data from an existing Informix database running on a Motorola UNIX machine. It is Informix 4.00 SE, and it does have INET 4.0 drivers installed. We have this machine networked on TCP/IP.
What I would like to do is fairly trivial in theory and I believe must have been done before by many. I would like to somehow access these tables on the Informix database FROM the Oracle database.
My goal really is to be able to do this type of SQL:
insert into calldetail_at_oracle
select * from calldetail_at_informix
where calldetail_at_oracle is the local database table on the Oracle V7 RDBMS (A/UX based machine currently) and the calldetail_at_informix is the remote table.
I understand that I will at least need to have INFORMIX-NET drivers loaded on the machine where Oracle resides. What I am still researching is what is the most elegant way to achieve this type of SQL. Are the Transparent Gateways for Oracle available for Informix? Or am I going to have to write a custom program that will extract the data from Informix and turn around and insert it into Oracle?
I am sure that this has been done before somewhere. Currently I have a design that will dump flat-file ASCII files from the Informix database and then I can use SQL*Loader to import them into the Oracle db but this is a bit too clumsy for me. I would like to be able to 'pull' the data and schedule all of these actions FROM the external Oracle database.
The thing that makes this a bit more difficult is that we cannot install any more software on the Informix database because the computer that it resides on is really an Aspect CallCenter and Aspect does not want any other software running on top of their own stuff (middleware like SequeLink). So I will have to do with INET by itself on the client machine.
Any ideas? Please reply via private email or post publicly if your experience would be useful to others. I will most gladly summarize to the net if I get some interesting replies.
Thanks much,
Alex Sirota
Engineer Tools & Support
Apple Computer - Apple Assistance Center, Austin TX
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"Genius is an African who dreams of snow." -Nabokov
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 12:36:48 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Lopatosky <ccjlopa_at_GATEKEEPER.DDP.STATE.ME.US> Subject: Oracle 7.1, SQL*Net and Multi-Threaded Servers
We are in the process of installing Oracle 7.1.3 on a dual Pentium Compaq running SCO Unix. I have built a test database in order to verify everything works. However, I am having problems getting the multi-threaded servers option to work. We are going to run both SQL*Net V1 and V2 (which I am also having problems with). Does anyone have any suggestions?
There strange part is that we previously had Oracle 7.0.13 working on SCO Unix with MTS and SQL*Net v1.
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:45:38 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Informix <-> Oracle export/import of tables?
In-Reply-To: Alex Sirota <adapple_at_APPLE.COM> "Informix <-> Oracle
export/import of tables?" (Sep 20, 11:20am)
Alex --
When you get responses to this, would you kindly pass them along to me? I'd appreciate it!!
Bambi.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:07:24 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: TOM MERCADANTE <MERCADTF_at_SNYPLAVA.BITNET> Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA Subject: Re: Who-should-see-it
Date sent: 20-SEP-1994 13:01:56
Pinchas,
I can see no reason why your programming staff should not have access to those tables. Being able to see system parameters is no breach of security that I can see. The info in these views show how the Oracle Database is running, and what the initialization parameters, file structure etc looks like.
I think you will find that once they view the stuff, they probably won't look at it again. It really is pretty boring stuff, unless you are researching some system problem.
Granting DBA access is another matter. I don't know about you, but that scares me a lot. There should be, at most, two people with DBA privs. One person is the primary DBA with the second as backup.
Tom
> >FROM: Pinchas Nisenson >There is ongoing request from our application systems development community >( programmers ) to see all the Oracle system related information >i.e. DBA_xxx tables, V$yyy tables ( v$parameter ...) etc etc ... >Some even request to be included in the Unix DBA group. >Do you have a policy and procedures that describe >what should and what should not be accessible? >I would greatly appreciate you sharing with us your experience. >Thanks ... > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca >Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447 >University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % % Tom Mercadante % % Database Administrator % % SUNY Plattsburgh % % % % BITNET : MERCADTF_at_SNYPLAVB.BITNET % % INTERNET : MERCADTF_at_SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU Computer Systems Center % % PHONE : (518)564-3013 Kehoe 507 % % Plattsburgh, NY 12901 % % Views expressed are mine, mine and only mine! % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:14:39 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: David Kent <david_at_MTU.EDU> Subject: Re: Part-time Oracle position, M.I.T.
I'm not surprised you haven't found anyone for this job yet.....You're not asking for much....
All this is in exchange a measily 20-hour/week salary.....And oh yeah, you'll be lifting equipment too....And oh, did we forget to mention that the last person bailed out halfway through the conversion and you'll be required to pick up the pieces and keep everything rolling.....
...Get Real
Standard disclaimers definitely apply.
David
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Hi everyone,
I thought I'd send out this job announcement in the hopes that one of you might know an interested and qualified Oracle pro who would like to work part-time here at M.I.T. in Cambridge. Part way through moving our hospital services system from from Mumps to ORACLE, we lost our programmer. It's a great position for the right person. If anyone is interested, they can contact me via e-mail or follow the instructions at the end of the formal announcement. Thanks,
Maureen Williams
ORACLE DEVELOPER - PART TIME (20 HRS/WEEK) The Clinical Research Center at M.I.T. seeks an individual to help develop a system which manages the day-to-day operations of the Clinical Research Center. Responsible for all phases of program development from initial design to implementation, testing and user training. System will be implemented on a DECsystem with ULTRIX/UNIX, Motif and Pathworks for DOS. The position also requires assisting with UNIX and PC system management tasks.
REQUIREMENTS: A minimum of five years developing software using relational database systems, with at least two years experience with ORACLE. Experience performing database administration, performance analysis and tuning. A Bachelor's degree in Information Systems or Computer Science. Experience providing hardware and software technical support to PC and/or UNIX users. Must possess strong troubleshooting skills, teamwork, interpersonal, training and communication skills. Some lifting of equipment required.
Qualified applicants should submit two copies of both cover letter and resume referencing the proper Job No. 94-0552R to: Ramona Allen, MIT Personnel Office, Bldg. E19-239, 77 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139-4307. MIT is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer. MIT is a non-smoking environment.
Hi , I am trying to find out what ad hoc query tool use is like in a general Oracle population. To avoid massive congestion on the list, please post your replys to me directly. I promise to post a summary for everyone. Even if you are not using the tools, please reply with a "not using ad hoc" message.
Thanks,
Hope to meet some of you at IOUW.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 11:49:45 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Doug Faughnan <dfaughn%comagic_at_COMAGIC.MNET.USWEST.COM> Subject: backup strategies
Anyone on the list know of some good information on backup / recovery strategies? I am using IMP / EXP in NOARCHIVEMODE.
Thanks,
Doug Faughnan
US WEST, Denver
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 16:57:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Wolf, Donald" <wolfdo_at_UH3303P02.DAYTONOH.NCR.COM> Subject: "Cross-tabbing"
Hi,
Microsoft Access has a type of "query" called crosstab. It takes specified row values of data and uses them as column headings for tabularizing data. For example the following data:
Column_1 Column_2 Column_3
Would produce the following results if the crosstab function were applied to it for Column_1 being the "row identifier", Column_2 being the "column identifier", and Column_3 being the "value identifier":
Column_1 1 3 5
Does anyone out there know of a way to have Oracle do this either via SQL, PL/SQL, or a combination? Note: Before accessing the first table, it is not known how many columns will be generated in the one generated by the crosstab.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Don
P.S. Please be gentle, this is my first question.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:12:30 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Mike Regovic <mregovic_at_BABIES.BSD.UCHICAGO.EDU> Subject: Re: "Cross-tabbing"
The following SQL text should do the trick.
col stmtend noprint
set heading on
spool test.lst
start test
spool off
Hope it helps
Mike Regovic
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 21:11:32 U
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From: Jorge Riefkohl <Jorge_Riefkohl_at_AMGENGATE.AMGEN.COM>
Subject: MacX connection
Reply to: MacX connection
Does someone has the series of commands that enables to login with MacX???
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:17:45 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Akbar Shah </PN=ash/OU=venus/@GBF-BRAUNSCHWEIG.DBP.DE> Subject: Re: Test
thanks for reply , Juliusz
..Akbar
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 09:43:00 GMT
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From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK>
Subject: Optimizer Goal
Hi
To the user how asked about the Optimizer goal setting
Use the Alter system command.
Use the Alter system command.
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From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK>
Subject: Optimizer Goal
Please ingnore the message about ALTER SYSTEM (hit the wrong key and the message was posted)
To the user how ask about the Optimizer goal:
Use the ALter Session command
ALTER SESSION FIRST_ROW See page 4-46 of the SQL language Reference Manual
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England.
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Internet :- HUET1_at_MDX.AC.UK
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From: Richard Campbell Serco DPE/IO <Richard.Campbell_at_MAIL.ESRIN.ESA.IT>
Subject: Snapshot Problems
I have two questions regarding snapshots.
Any ideas why this is happening ?
2) The NEXT (refresh) parameter in the CREATE/ALTER snapshot command needs to be a date expression, therefore does this mean that any snapshot can only be updated once a day (ie NEXT TRUNC(SYSDATE) + 15/24) ?
Thanks for All Info or ideas
Richard
We are evaluating our current system which was developed using Microsoft Foxpro. We plan to attach to an Oracle server and are considering two possible front ends. Our current software package, Foxpro 2.6 for windows and Microsoft Access. We have extensive knowledge of Foxpro, except for the connectivity. As far as Microsoft Access, we just received a copy of it and have begun to explore its potential. Any recommendations or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:32:52 +0000 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Sidaway, Tony" <Tony.Sidaway_at_MCL.CO.UK> Subject: Q: ORACLE-oriented FTP sites
Are there any anonymous FTP sites containing useful ORACLE-oriented files?
A "whatis oracle" search on my local Archie server [archie.doc.ic.ac.uk] =
drew a complete blank.
Surely somewhere there is a place for storage of accrued ORACLE wisdom!
Tony
Tony.Sidaway_at_mcl.co.uk
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:50:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: OPTIMIZER Subject: Optimizer Goal
>Please ingnore the message about ALTER SYSTEM >(hit the wrong key and the message was posted) > >To the user how ask about the Optimizer goal: > >Use the ALter Session command > >ALTER SESSION FIRST_ROW > >See page 4-46 of the SQL language Reference Manual
I hate networks that hang.
Sorry the Alter Session command should read:
ALTER SESSION OPTIMIZER_GOAL FIRST_ROW;
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London
England.
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Internet :- HUET1_at_MDX.AC.UK
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From: "Betty Page (SSD)" <bpage_at_CENSUS.GOV>
Subject: Migration Tools
Does anyone have any information (availability, cost etc.) about tools from Oracle to convert Rdb 4.2 and above databases to Oracle?
TIA
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:28:43 +0000 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Sidaway, Tony" <Tony.Sidaway_at_MCL.CO.UK> Subject: Re: LONG
Luigi Suardi <gigi_at_softint.com> asks
does anybody know of an effective way to load LONG
values in an ORACLE database?
sqlplus has screen limitations and powerbuilder
just truncates the fields to < 255 characters.
Tony
Tony.Sidaway_at_mcl.co.uk
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 08:56:15 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> Subject: Re: Q: ORACLE-oriented FTP sites
There is a FAQ site for Oracle at FTP.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE. , which I believe was referenced in a entry on this Listserver a few weeks ago. The files have not been updated recently (1993), but there is still quite a bit of useful information.
Hope this helps.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:01:52 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Debi Battista <DBATTISTA%NARVAX_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV> TO: ORACLE PROGRAMMERS FROM: DEBI BATTISTA DATE: SEPTEMBER 21, 1994 SUBJECT: OPEN ORACLE POSITION IN NARRAGANSETT, R.I.
IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED (AND/OR LOCAL ENOUGH) - HERE IS THE ADVERTISEMENT WHICH WAS PLACED IN THE PROVIDENCE SUNDAY JOURNAL IN RHODE ISLAND: PROGRAMMER/Oracle Database. Immediate opening for programmer with degree and Oracle tools experience. VMS/DOS/UNIX environments. Send resume to : David Sleczkowski, R.O.W. Sciences, 27 Tarzwell Drive. Narragansett, R.I. 02882
THE PROJECT IS THE DESIGN, CODE, AND DEVELOPMENT OF A MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY (USEPA) IN NARRAGANSETT, R.I. WE ARE USING PC WINDOWS CLIENTS AND A VAX/VMS SERVER. WE WILL BE MOVING TO AN ALPHA OSF/1 SERVER VERY SOON. WE ARE USING FORMS V4.0, REPORTS V2.0, SQL*Plus V3.1, ETC. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - PLEASE CONTACT ME! THANKS....
| Debra A. Battista |
| Database Administrator / Programmer |
| (401) 782-3047 |
| DBATTISTA%NARVAX_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV |
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From: "Martin G. Bradburn" <MBRADBURN%NARDEB_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV>
Subject: Oracle on Alpha 500MP Sable
Good Day, We are currrently in the process of converting our current Oracle Server from a VAX 4300 to an Alpha 500MP (Configured with 4 processors). We Have three Oracle databases currently running (2 on the 4300 , 1 on a 3140). We would like to have all of these using the Alpha for their server. We are not well versed in the aspects of a multi-threaded configuration/operation and have some questions about development/production in this environment. These are:
Has anyone done this installation on a similar configuration and
could you provide any insights or sources of info above and beyond
the Oracle DBA literature.
Does anyone know of any documents that discuss, the logic/justification
for separate development/production servers, multiple instances, tuning
issues for such etc. Specific info on multi-theraded config. would be
great.
While separation of development and production servers,instances and instances for different projects with different tuning requirements seems logical from a maintenance and recovery perspective any documentation to support this would help us in determining our configuration requirements. We will also be moving from VMS to OSF. Will our DBAs (VMS wienies) require a UNIX course to do thier job or will they be able to pick up what they need to perform their functions.
Thanks (Waiting to engage Warp Drives)
Martin Bradburn
ROW Sciences (USEPA)
mbradburn_at_nardeb.nar.epa.gov
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 09:50:47 CDT
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From: Bill Pribyl <dcraft!bill_at_NUCHAT.SCCSI.COM>
Subject: Re: Q: ORACLE-oriented FTP sites
In-Reply-To: <m0qnRzc-00095yC_at_nuchat.sccsi.com>; from "Sidaway,
Tony" at Sep 21, 94 2:32 pm
Regarding FTP sites:
Some Oracle FAQs are found in /pub/oracle/faq/* at ftp.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
Or if you don't have ftp, send email with the subject 'help' or 'ping' to ftpmail_at_aix01.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de
There is a backup archive at
ftp.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
[134.106.1.9]
The backup site also has a ftpmail service; Send mail with subject 'help' to 'ftpmail_at_faramir.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE'.
Bill
Sidaway, Tony wrote:
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:22:11 +0000 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Sidaway, Tony" <Tony.Sidaway_at_MCL.CO.UK> Subject: Test: ignore
Apologies for use of bandwidth.
Testing an alternative way of contacting the mailing list--the standard = message format on MS-MAIL 3.1c (MAC) through MCL's internet gateway seems = to mess up on the LISTSERV. This alternative method is called "Send 80 = column".
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 12:32:45 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Iraida Becerra <ICBHC_at_CUNYVM.BITNET> Subject: Fund Accounting System
Hi All,
Does anyone on the list have some information about any application
written using Oracle software for Fund Accounting?
Thanks,
Iraida Becerra
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 09:38:54 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Rajaram M Bhakta <raja_at_NETCOM.COM> Subject: DSS & Data Warehouses
Hi,
We are in the process of building a decision support system & a data warehouse. The requirement is high performance. Space is not a consideration.
I would like to learn from the experiences of the members of this list who may already have built a DSS or Data warehouses.
Specifically
We are using Oracle V7.0 on HP-UX. Size of the Db would be about 10/12 Gbs to start with. Numbr of users would be about 150/200.
If there are any disadvantages to using Oracle I would be interested in hearing about it & alternative platforms for high performance.
If there is sufficient no of replies i will post a summary to this group and comp.databases.oracle.
Please reply directly to the list or to rb_at_fritz.com
Thanks
-Raja
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:12:10 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Karl Mulder <KMULDER_at_VM.NMU.EDU> Subject: ACCESS 1.1 file attach to Oracle 6 server
I am trying to get ACCESS 1.1 to do a file attach to an ORACLE 6 sql server.
A user requested that I try to get a copy of ACCESS to read their Oracle databases so that they could create ACCESS forms, etc. to read their files.
I can use SQLPLUSW to login and perform queries on the databases. So I know that the basic ORACLE userid that I was supplied with does work and that it has enough security to query the files.
I installed ACCESS, and the ODBC driver software. The ODBC driver added an ODBC Oracle Setup under the Windows Control Panel icon. The ABOUT info on the ODBC Oracle Driver shows:
SQORA.DLL from PageAhead Software Research, Version 1.00.2816
My problem:
1 I start up ACCESS and open a database.
2 I then select File/Attach TAble.
3 The "Attach" table window appears and I select "<SQL Database>" as my
data source.
4 A "SQL Data Sources" window appears and I select "Housing" which is
the data source which I defined under the "ODBC Oracle Setup" icon.
5 A "Logon to Oracle" window appears and I supply my oracle userid and
password.
6 A "Attach Tables" window appears which lists all of the Oracle
databases that I have access to on the server. !!! Great it seems to be working it actually found the server !!!
7 I select one of the tables and press the "Attach" button on the
"Attach Tables" window.
8) I receive an error window with the following message:
"Couldn't execute query; couldn't find linked table."
9) I press "OK" on the error window.
This is as far as I get. Access seems to be communicating with the Oracle server, but when I try to get attached to the actual table their is a problem. Has anyone seen this type of problem?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:06:13 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Martin G. Bradburn" <MBRADBURN%NARDEB_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV> Subject: Access 1.1 to Oracle
Karl - Have you made a synonym for the table that the user attaching has
access to? Oracle will give the ORA- error message you described if this has
not been done. - Hope it helps
Martin Bradburn
ROW Sciences (USEPA)
mbradburn_at_nardeb.nar.epa.gov
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:58:32 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Dave Gardner - TCC X4-3007 <GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM> Subject: Re: ACCESS 1.1 file attach to Oracle 6 server
We had a similar problem with Access 2.0 and Oracle7. We granted access to public and were able to attach. This is not a good solution and I'm not sure what more has been done with this.
Dave Gardner
GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM
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From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: 2 problems with snapshots
Background:
We have a production Data Warehouse in our central computer center and another Oracle7 server in the College of Engineering. I set up snapshots on the Engineering server to replicate a subset of the data on the master server every morning at 6 am.
The first problem is this: if the Engineering server is down for some reason at 6 am, the snapshot will run as soon as Oracle is brought back up. One morning our production server was brought to its knees at 10 am when the Engineering server "woke up" and realized it had snapshots to refresh. Is there any way to disable the refresh if it isn't performed at the specified time?
The second problem is that Oracle assumes that it is OK for the DBA on server A to see the passwords for the database links to server B. In our case, I don't want the Engineering DBA to see the password to the account in the database link which points to the production server. The account is DBA-equivalent on the production server. So, all my production data is vulnerable. I'm not sure why the passwords aren't encrypted in SYS.DBA_DB_LINKS, but they definitely are not.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:35:43 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: John Flack <John=C=Flack%OISM.DPS.H%ACF.WDC_at_BAN-GATE.ACF.DHHS.GOV> Subject: Messages in SQL*Forms 3.0
I have the following code in a SQL*Forms 3.0 KEY-COMMIT trigger:
message('Running your request, please wait.'); synchronize; /* To get the message to show up before the host command runs. */ host(hostcmd,NO_SCREEN); /* hostcmd has been preset to a valid host command
that does not display on the screen. */
message('All done with your request.');
Is there a way that I can suppress the "Press any key to acknowledge message" that SQL*Forms displays and requires the user to respond to? I don't mind it for the second message, but the first message is just to let the user know that something is happening behind the scenes, kind of like, "Working ...".
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:36:12 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
I am posting my reply to the list since it seems interest is running high on the topic. I guess I'm selfish... I don't want to type 20 minutes just for one person! :-)
> We are in the process of building a decision support system & a data
> warehouse. The requirement is high performance. Space is not a
> consideration.
>
We have a 3 gig data warehouse running on a 2 processor SPARC 1000. There are about 40 named users, and anywhere from 5-10 concurrent users on Oracle. A key requirement that our users had was timely information. We have cron jobs on the UNIX box which move files over from our production MVS systems nightly. These cron jobs invoke SQL*Loader scripts which load the data into Oracle tables. It took a lot of coordination on the MVS/UNIX systems to automate the process.
We didn't have much problem with denormalization since our tables weren't normalized in our OLTP system (network IDMS database).
It looks like we will be moving to Financial & HR systems based on Oracle. In these systems, there are over 800 tables. I expect we will do massive denormalization & summarization to make these meaningful. The literature suggests that more than 100 tables/views in a Data Warehouse becomes overwhelming for users. I would argue the critical mass is lower, about 50.
> We are using Oracle V7.0 on HP-UX. Size of the Db would be about 10/12 Gbs
> to start with. Numbr of users would be about 150/200.
One of your requirements was high performance. I would also be concerned, given the size (10-12 Gb) and number of users (150-200) of your planned Data Warehouse. Keep in mind that DSS usage is much more intensive than OLTP usage. We use profiles extensively to limit CPU usage (~3 min per user), but we still run into occasional performance problems. Instead of users, it helps to quantify the situation in terms of concurrently running queries. We don't see more than two concurrent queries very often now, even with 10 concurrent users on. However, we have just begun rolling the service out to users. I expect to request 2 additional processors soon.
We get a lot of positive feedback on the Data Warehouse. Most users feel that the Warehouse has extended the life of our MVS systems by providing access to data that previously took hours or days to get. DSS using IDMS via ODBC have been considered, but our mainframe is far too over-utilized to support that activity.
You might contact Paul Dorsey for a copy of his study on DSS tools.
Some recent articles:
Data Based Advisor/ July 1994
Data Management Review/ June (?) 1994
Book: Decision Support Systems: Putting Theory Into Practice, Sprague & Watson.
There are many more I can't dig up...
Good luck!
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:28:06 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Madhu Rajamani <rajamani_at_CS.IASTATE.EDU> Subject: Re: Microsoft Foxpro vs. AccessIn-Reply-To: from "Troy Martin" at Sep 21, 94 8:58 am
> We are evaluating our current system which was developed using
> Microsoft Foxpro. We plan to attach to an Oracle server and are
> considering two possible front ends. Our current software
> package, Foxpro 2.6 for windows and Microsoft Access. We have
> extensive knowledge of Foxpro, except for the connectivity. As
> far as Microsoft Access, we just received a copy of it and have
> begun to explore its potential. Any recommendations or
> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'd like some information on MS-Access too. I plan to use Access to serve some SQL queries from a C program. Is this possible? If yes, how do I go about it?
The info I have is far too little to do a task like this. I'd be grateful to anyone who could provide me some info. on this.
Sincere thanks in advance.
Madhu Rajamani
rajamani_at_cs.iastate.edu
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:02:15 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: John Peterson <adp_john_at_WSC.COLORADO.EDU> Subject: Re: Fund Accounting System >Hi All, >Does anyone on the list have some information about any application >written using Oracle software for Fund Accounting? > > >Thanks, >
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:21:09 -0400
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From: "Jennifer R. Amon (216) 775-6987" <BAMON_at_OCVAXC.CC.OBERLIN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Messages in SQL*Forms 3.0
>Subj: Messages in SQL*Forms 3.0
>
>I have the following code in a SQL*Forms 3.0 KEY-COMMIT trigger:
>
>message('Running your request, please wait.');
>synchronize; /* To get the message to show up before the host command runs. */
>host(hostcmd,NO_SCREEN); /* hostcmd has been preset to a valid host command
> that does not display on the screen. */
>message('All done with your request.');
>
>Is there a way that I can suppress the "Press any key to acknowledge message"
>that SQL*Forms displays and requires the user to respond to? I don't mind it
>for the second message, but the first message is just to let the user know that
>something is happening behind the scenes, kind of like, "Working ...".
Yes. Create a page with a message field that is the same size and in the same location as the message line, generally a 1 x 80 page. Write your message to that field, and do a show_page. Then when you are done with it, hide the page.
Or, get Forms v4, which provides an option to suppress the ack requirement.
Jennifer Amon
bamon_at_ocvaxc.cc.oberlin.edu
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:33:08 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Martin G. Bradburn" <MBRADBURN%NARDEB_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV> Subject: Messages in Forms 3.0
>I have the following code in a SQL*Forms 3.0 KEY-COMMIT trigger:
>message('Running your request, please wait.');
>synchronize; /* To get the message to show up before the host command runs. */
>host(hostcmd,NO_SCREEN); /* hostcmd has been preset to a valid host command
> that does not display on the screen. */
>message('All done with your request.');
>Is there a way that I can suppress the "Press any key to acknowledge message"
>that SQL*Forms displays and requires the user to respond to? I don't mind it
>for the second message, but the first message is just to let the user know that
>something is happening behind the scenes, kind of like, "Working ...".
You can simulate a working message by creating a block with one 80 char field (display only) at 1,1. Next create a pop up page with the pg size x=80 y =1, view size x=80 y=1, view loc x=1 y=23 and view page x=1 y=1. Next modify the root page to pop up and pg size x=80 y =22,view size x=80 y=22, view loc x=1 y=1 and view page x=1 y=1. Then display the message using:
:block.field name (of field on pop up page) = 'message';
show_page(# of pop up page);
syncronize;
host(etc);
hide_page(# of pop up page);
This comes from an Oracle Tech bulletin # 100259.738 if you need more info. Hope it helps
Martin Bradburn
ROW Sciences (USEPA)
mbradburn_at_nardeb.nar.epa.gov
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:15:28 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
I tink I would disagree with the criticle mass for user overload to be 50 tables. I think it is MUCH lower. Most users only need a relatively small subset of the DB anyway. With the exception of special users like IS people and internal auditors, 80-90% of users live in a 12 table view anyway.
I think that the jury is still out on how much denormalization/ summarization to do. The key is to a priori have your users do a query log and try to get a sense of what they want to know. That will tell you the level of detail that you need.
Many companies have made thier users very happy with single table views that they can play with to their hearts content.
I don't know where you find your users but I live with manager types. I can't believe that I am going to roll out any tool to a 50 table view to one these folks without getting killed. Maybe of you deal with scientific users such a number might be possible but not any normal human being.
FYI, in the last year there has been a dramatic shift to data warehouses from queries running on the main systems. Normal data sizes seem to be running 4-10 GB.
Talk to you after IOUW.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
P.S. If you haven't already, please fill out the ad hoc query questionnaire that I sent out the other day. thanks, paul
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:36:25 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Chad A. Tompkins" <CTOMPKINS_at_WRAIR__GUDE__1_at_MAIL.HJF.ORG> Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
It's a little sales pitchy, but Business Objects had a white paper contracted on data warehousing and ad hoc query tools that covers much of this. I don't have their central number, but our sales office in the Wash, DC area is 301-571-9331.
Also there is an ad hoc query list server that just started to become active. You can subscribe by sending a message to "mailserv-reply_at_genius.rider.edu" saying "subscribe ad_hoc First Last" in your message content.
Chad (chad_at_hjfhiv.hjf.org
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Hi,
We are in the process of building a decision support system & a data warehouse. The requirement is high performance. Space is not a consideration.
I would like to learn from the experiences of the members of this list who may already have built a DSS or Data warehouses.
Specifically
We are using Oracle V7.0 on HP-UX. Size of the Db would be about 10/12 Gbs to start with. Numbr of users would be about 150/200.
If there are any disadvantages to using Oracle I would be interested in hearing about it & alternative platforms for high performance.
If there is sufficient no of replies i will post a summary to this group and comp.databases.oracle.
Please reply directly to the list or to rb_at_fritz.com
Thanks
-Raja
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:42:49 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Carlos Abarca Rivera - Oracle Costa Rica <cabarca_at_CR.ORACLE.COM> Subject: Re: Messages in SQL*Forms 3.0
In-Reply-To: UNIX1:<@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>'s message of 21-Sep-94 15:35
>Is there a way that I can suppress the "Press any key to acknowledge message" >that SQL*Forms displays and requires the user to respond to?
No, two consecutive message() need user intervention. On the other had, you can display a small pop up page with a control block with message as long as the host takes.
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Received: 09-21-94 15:56 Sent: 09-21-94 15:35From: UNIX1:<@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET Subject: Messages in SQL*Forms 3.0 Reply-To: UNIX1:<@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:owner-oracle-l_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU> Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> X-To: ORACLE-L_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU
I have the following code in a SQL*Forms 3.0 KEY-COMMIT trigger:
message('Running your request, please wait.'); synchronize; /* To get the message to show up before the host command runs. */ host(hostcmd,NO_SCREEN); /* hostcmd has been preset to a valid host command
that does not display on the screen. */
message('All done with your request.');
Is there a way that I can suppress the "Press any key to acknowledge message" that SQL*Forms displays and requires the user to respond to? I don't mind it for the second message, but the first message is just to let the user know that something is happening behind the scenes, kind of like, "Working ...".
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 19:35:50 -0400
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From: Tom Griffin <tgriffin_at_SCTCORP.COM>
Subject: Re: Fund Accounting System
In-Reply-To: Letter from John Peterson of Sep 21,
2:02pm "Re: Fund Accounting System"
On Sep 21, 2:02pm, John Peterson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Fund Accounting System
> >Hi All,
> >Does anyone on the list have some information about any application
> >written using Oracle software for Fund Accounting?
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >Iraida Becerra
> Have you checked into Oracle Financials and with
> SCT out of Malvern, PA. 1-800-223-7036(outside PA), 1-215-647-5930 (inside PA)
.
> Best wishes, -jep
>
>-- End of excerpt from John Peterson
Thanks for the good word John!
Iraida,
Ask for Silvio Navarro in Malvern. He's the regional sales manager for your area.
Good Luck!
Tom
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From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
> I tink I would disagree with the criticle mass for user overload to be
> 50 tables. I think it is MUCH lower. Most users only need a
> relatively small subset of the DB anyway. With the exception of
> special users like IS people and internal auditors, 80-90% of
> users live in a 12 table view anyway.
Actually, I was just pointing out that 100 tables was FAR too many... one of the articles I picked up used that as a maximum.
Our Data Warehouse actually consists of 20-30 views & tables, half of which are "decode" tables. For example, 6 of the tables decode our account number, listing the code & the text description. I would wager your 12 tables don't include decode tables. In some of the views, we join the decode tables to the data tables to make it appear as one large table. However, this approach isn't always feasible for very large tables... I think they should still be included in the Warehouse. Suppose someone just wants to look up a department code or a project code...
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 21:14:30 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jeff Kuo <jeffk_at_PANIX.COM> Subject: C++ and Oracle7
I would like to develop C++ programs which can access an Oracle 7 RDBMS. My engines run on DOS and SCO Unix and I would be willing to use any decent C++ complier. There seem to be alot of issues regarding the interactions between C++, Pro*C, and embedded SQL. Could anybody steer me towards some implementations?
Thank you, in advance, for your time and assistance.
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Howdy!
This is to answer a question regarding Creating Table in PL/SQL. PL/SQL
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Hope it helps.
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 23:37:39 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Fred J. Nerk" <srinivas_at_CS.UTEP.EDU> Subject: Reply DSS & Data Warehouses
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| . . | Chris Anderson |
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| ..... ..... | Cellular Subscriber Group, MIS |
| .. ... .. | Libertyville, IL |
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| | Email: chris_at_techmpc.csg.mot.com |
| Motorola, Inc. | AOL: chrisa1703 |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|* Disclaimer: The author's opinions are his own, and not necessarily |
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+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| / | _ \ | | | |
| _o_\_,_;_(_ ,o _\;__,_,_,_; ; |
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set I
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take a shit at work->read rmgd->make a lame post->
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call a few friends->make plans for the weekend->
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encore
And we bid you good night!
|| || Bryan Levin
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:31:03 +0200
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Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET>
From: Fons Reijsbergen <Fons.Reijsbergen_at_KONBIB.NL>
Subject: POWERBUILDER
Hello,
Does anyone know of a powerbuilder discussion list?
We are using Oracle And Powerbuilder and I want to subscribe both discussion list.
Fons Reijsbergen EMail Fons.Reijsbergen_at_konbib.nl
The Hague, Netherlands wwWWww
Tel +31 70 3140499 ([o][o])
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Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 07:58:05 -0400
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From: Jim Lopatosky <ccjlopa_at_GATEKEEPER.DDP.STATE.ME.US>
Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
In-Reply-To: <199409211713.NAA01639_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us>
We are currently implementing a Data Warehouse for our human resources application, which resides on MVS. Similar to Kevin Batson of Clemson University, we will be setting up cron to invoke SQL*Loader to load the Oracle 7.1 tables via NFS on a nightly basis. For this (our first DW application), there are roughly twenty tables, three of which are used by GQL for the data dictionary, one used for decoding, and one used for data security (people have access to views which are secured with this table that matches userid and department number).
We currently have about 3Gig of data (which includes only base data and the unique indices--extra indices will be added later). We are running on a dual Pentium 90 MHz Compaq.
As far as Denormalization goes, we started off with about twelve tables all fairly normalized, and then added a couple of summary tables. This way, people can use the data they like. Whether they do or not is another story, as we are just going production.
We also have a high performance requirement, which is why the new box was purchased. We'll see what happens when our 50-some-odd users start abusing the system. We still have a few tricks up our sleeves (raw devices, striping, etc.) which we plan to use which should help.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | /^^\ James Lopatosky, Database Specialist | | | | State of Maine, Division of Data Processing | | | | State Office Building, Station #61 | | / \ Augusta, ME 04333 U.S.A. | | | ___/ Voice (207) 287-3631 Fax (207) 287-6528 | | | __/ ccjlopa_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us | | |/ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:00:23 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Re: MacX connection> I will like to use MacX to connect to ORACLE CASE Tools running on a SUN
> Reply to: MacX connection
>
I've used MacX with the Oracle tools in the Solaris environment. I'm not really sure what you're asking, but when you set up the application in MacX you supply it with a host name/userid/password and the command you want to execute... for Forms 4/Motif, it was 'f40desm &'
On the Solaris side, you need to add a line similar to 'display=:<hostname>' to your login script (.cshrc), where <hostname> is your Mac's hostname as it appears in the DNS or in the hosts file. You can substitute your IP address for the hostname if you wish. It's very possible that I have the syntax for the display statement incorrect. It's been a while. Consult the MacX documentation for the exact syntax.
Hope that helps.
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:12:30 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andy Townsend <townsend_at_SETA.COM> Subject: Re: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
You can get the new ODBC driver for Oracle 7 from Compuserve. It may be available elsewhere, but that's where we got it (just a few weeks ago).
Andy Townsend
townsend_at_seta.com
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:21:27 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: almquist paul <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US> Subject: Re: Ad hoc query tools
Not using ad hoc. My Oracle system is used only for instruction in DB design and implementation using SQL (sql*plus, sql*forms, and embedded sql with pro*cobol), Two 1 semester classes right now.
> 8) Anything else you want to say about ad hoc?
Certainly a necessary requirement--can't put every query in a
can for the users.
Our Admin Computer Services department also uses oracle and
has Focus. I hope they reply cause I don't know their feeling
about it but they have had it for just a short time.
>
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+------------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Paul F. Almquist | Chippewa Valley | | Instructor & System Administrator | Technical College | | Computer Information Systems Dept | 620 W. Clairemont Avenue | | e-mail: | Eau Claire, WI 54701 | | almqpf_at_cvtc-cis.chippewa.tec.wi.us | voice: 715-833-6386 | | palmquist_at_mail.chippewa.tec.wi.us | fax: 715-833-6470 | +------------------------------------+----------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:25:42 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Helena Whitaker <helena_at_CREIGHTON.EDU> Subject: Re: brief diversion from work
I like artwork as much as anyone, but isn't 122K a bit much for a mail message to a list? (The second one, not the first one.)
The host machine for the list must have come to it's knees on that one.
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<:>-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<:> <: Helena Whitaker, Database Administrator helena_at_creighton.edu :> <: Creighton University (0800-1630 CT) (402)280-2311 :> <: Old Gym - 2500 California Plaza fax (402)280-2573 :> <: Admin Computing-Fin Sys Spt Platform: HP-UX 9.0.4 (unix) :> <: Omaha, NE 68178-0046 HP 9000/887 (aka H50) & 842 :> <: Oracle 6.0.36.7.1/Banner Finance 1.10.8 :> <:>-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<->-<:> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:25:39 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Rich Pickett - Sys. Dev." <OIT_RICH_at_JMUVAX.BITNET> Subject: Re: Microsoft Foxpro vs. Access
We have used Microsoft Access (1.x and 2.0) to access Oracle on several occasions. The connectivity utilizing ODBC drivers works very well. I've found it to be an easy tool to develop front-end access to the RDBMS. Since Access is a SQL database it is easy to code for both local and remote tables. Its Wizards provide a rapid development environment. To fully utilize its capabilities you need to include Access Basic modules in your applications.
I've never used Foxpro to access Oracle, but in comparison with other packages Access works very well.
Rich Pickett Voice: 703-568-3261 Director, Systems Development FAX: 703-432-0373 James Madison University E-mail: oit_rich_at_vax1.acs.jmu.eduHarrisonburg VA 22807
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:56:40 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gillam Ahn <gahn_at_BIH.HARVARD.EDU> Subject: Re: brief diversion from workIn-Reply-To: <199409221457.KAA07431_at_mercury.bih.harvard.edu>
ditto.
gillam
On Thu, 22 Sep 1994, Helena Whitaker wrote:
> I like artwork as much as anyone, but isn't 122K a bit much for a mail
> message to a list? (The second one, not the first one.)
>
> >
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:17:03 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Gillam Ahn <gahn_at_BIH.HARVARD.EDU> Subject: Re: DSS & Data WarehousesIn-Reply-To: <199409212334.TAA26351_at_mercury.bih.harvard.edu>
Kevin and Jim,
in your replies to the subject matter, you mentioned running cron jobs to get files from MVS.
i'm very much interested in the MVS/UNIX-ORACLE connection...
asking too much?
please be generous.
thanks. gillam
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:41:32 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Comments: <Parser> W: FROM field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Bess Protacio <bess_at_AIP.ORG> Subject: ddl in pl/sql
> Is it possible to use 'CREATE TABLE ...' in a PL/SQL program?
>
write up a script with your ddls and follow it up with the pl/sql code.
eg.
rem --- start sql ddl here
create table ...
/
rem --- start pl/sql here
begin
.....
end;
.
/
Bess Protacio Tel No. (516) 576-2325 American Institute of Physics FAX No. (516) 349-7669500 Sunnyside Blvd.
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:07:16 CST6CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andrew McAllister <MCALLISTER_at_NEPTUNE.GRAD.MISSOURI.EDU> Organization: UMC Graduate School Subject: Found: Latest ODBC Drivers to ORACLE7
On the oracle newsgroup comp.databases.oracle there was a message regarding Latest ODBC for Oracle7
The url is ftp://spock.dis.cccd.edu/pub/oracle/ora7odbc.zip
Is this legal? I don't know. The drivers are "free" on compuserve Oracle forum, but if you are not a member (read: not paying for support) are they still free?
I don't know. What the rest of you do is up to you.
Andrew McAllister -- Programmer/Analyst II
Office of Research, University of Missouri-Columbia
McAllister_at_neptune.grad.missouri.edu
Voice: 314.884-6237 (USA)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 13:40:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "durairaj,pattu" <$PZD_at_PCCJES2.BITNET> Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
My Oracle server is our MVS/ESA machine. I have clients both VMS and UNIX. Using SQL*Net and TCP/IP. Runs very well. Have about 300 regd. users but only few Net users.
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> From: Gillam Ahn <gahn_at_BIH.HARVARD.EDU>
> Subject: Re: DSS & Data Warehouses
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> - type of file system in MVS ?
> - connection between two platforms ?
> - what kind of cron jobs ?
> - etc,etc..
>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:31:20 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: John Flack <John=C=Flack%OISM.DPS.H%ACF.WDC_at_BAN-GATE.ACF.DHHS.GOV> Subject: Re: Returned mail: Remote protocol error
Gillam Ahn <gahn_at_BIH.HARVARD.EDU> Wrote:
| | Kevin and Jim, | | in your replies to the subject matter, you mentioned | running cron jobs to | get files from MVS. | | i'm very much interested in the MVS/UNIX-ORACLE | connection... | | - type of file system in MVS ? | - connection between two platforms ? | - what kind of cron jobs ? | - etc,etc.. | | asking too much? | please be generous. | thanks. gillam
We are not doing a DSS or data warehouse application, but we DO have both a Unix machine (Pyramid to be specific) and an MVS machine which are connected together with regular transmissions of data between the two of them. Our connection is a SNA/VTAM connection, but don't ask me the details - I know application developement software, not system software or hardware. What I do know is this:
>From the point of view of the MVS system, the Unix box is a 3770-type rje unit, complete with virtual printer, card punch and card reader. To send data from MVS to Unix, you simply "print" to the printer at that remote site, or "punch" to its card punch. You can add header records to the outgoing data to instruct Unix's 3770 emulation software about disposition of the arriving data. To send data from Unix to MVS, you run a program called "rje" that sends the data from the emulated card reader. Outgoing data is sent as a set of Job Control Language (JCL) instructions, with embedded data. The JCL would include the commands for data disposition. Files can have a record length up to about (we haven't tested all possibilities) 255. Because this is an emulated card punch and card reader, we find it easier to work with 80 character card images. There are programs named SENDFILE and RCVFILE on both systems that can break files into 80 character pieces, and reassemble them. These programs have been used for years at many sites to transmit between IBM computers.
If you think this arrangement is cumbersome, you are right. But it works. We send transaction files from MVS to Unix every night (scheduled process), process them and send error and status reports back. We allow users on MVS to request reports - the request is sent over to Unix, a report is run on the Oracle database, and the report is sent back to MVS. Any questions?
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:55:51 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Karl Mulder <KMULDER_at_VM.NMU.EDU> Subject: Re: ACCESS 1.1 file attach to Oracle 6 server
A duo of replies to answers that I have received: (thanks for trying!)
> From: "Martin G. Bradburn" <MBRADBURN%NARDEB_at_EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV>
>
the table that I am trying to access is one that has been granted to public with the following securities:
Select - y
Insert - a
Delete - y
Update - a
References - n
Alter - n
Index - n
I found this be doing a selection on the all_tab_grants table. I'm new to this but since I can sign onto oracle for windows and read the table why not when I give the same userid to the access "window"?
> From: Dave Gardner - TCC X4-3007 <GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM>
>
> >for the userid/password were you supplying an actual one or were you using something "generic"
> Dave Gardner
> GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM
The table was granted to public as I indicated above. When access asked
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:35:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "durairaj,pattu" <$PZD_at_PCCJES2.BITNET> Subject: Re: Returned mail: Remote protocol error
Just a small addition to John's message. The key is you have to define your Unix machine as an RJE (remote job entry) station.
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>> | please be generous.
> |
> | Kevin and Jim,
> |
> | in your replies to the subject matter, you mentioned
> | running cron jobs to
> | get files from MVS.
> |
> | i'm very much interested in the MVS/UNIX-ORACLE
> | connection...
> |
> | - type of file system in MVS ?
> | - connection between two platforms ?
> | - what kind of cron jobs ?
> | - etc,etc..
> |
> | asking too much?
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:42:50 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Bruce Schwalm <bschwalm_at_POSTMASTER2.DOT.GOV> Subject: Re[2]: DSS & Data Warehouses
I wouldn't mind seeing this information myself. Would it be possible to share it with the entire list? TIA.
Bruce Schwalm
bschwalm_at_postmaster2.dot.gov
202-366-1911
Kevin and Jim,
in your replies to the subject matter, you mentioned running cron jobs to get files from MVS.
i'm very much interested in the MVS/UNIX-ORACLE connection...
asking too much?
please be generous.
thanks. gillam
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 16:40:32 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kent Siemers <kjs_at_UMICH.EDU> Subject: Found: Latest ODBC Drivers to ORACLE7 (fwd)
Note that the following server name did NOT work, but "ftp.cccd.edu" did work, when using anonymous ftp. The zip file is in the /pub/oracle directory as stated.
(Note also that earlier mail showed this host's name as "ftp.cccd.com", which is wrong.) -- Kent
On the oracle newsgroup comp.databases.oracle there was a message regarding Latest ODBC for Oracle7
The url is ftp://spock.dis.cccd.edu/pub/oracle/ora7odbc.zip
Is this legal? I don't know. The drivers are "free" on compuserve Oracle forum, but if you are not a member (read: not paying for support) are they still free?
I don't know. What the rest of you do is up to you.
Andrew McAllister -- Programmer/Analyst II
Office of Research, University of Missouri-Columbia
McAllister_at_neptune.grad.missouri.edu
Voice: 314.884-6237 (USA)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:55:09 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Tim L. Olesen" <olesen.UCD.oramail_at_ZORRO.UCDAVIS.EDU> Subject: Sizing Rollback Segments (# Extents)
A large update process on one of our Oracle7 database servers was randomly crashing with Oracle error 'ORA-1562: failed to extend rollback segment (id = %s)'.
The interesting part was that there was only one process generating transactions on this database and when we re-ran the exact same transaction again, immediately after if failed, it would usually succeed.
Oracle RDBMS support pinpointed the problem to be the fact that I had only allocated four extents in each of my rollback segments. If a transaction had started at the end of an extent (say the end of extent one) than only three more extents would be available for this transaction as it will not wrap-around to an active extent. So occasionally, I was only obtaining about 3/4's of my rollback capacity.
What hurt most was that I was chastised for only allocating four extents in each of my rollback segments. Clearly, the Oracle7 Server Administrators Guide recommends you allocate between 10 and 20 extents. Of course, I swore that I had read that four extents was recommended somewhere in the Oracle documentation. :-)
Well two months later, long after the TAR was closed and forgotten, I found that piece of documentation! $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/install/crdb2.orc is a baseline script to:
REM * This script takes care off all commands necessary to create REM * an OFA compliant database after the CREATE DATABASE command has REM * succeeded.
embedded within this script are the guidelines for creating rollback segments:
REM * Create a tablespace for rollback segments. REM * Rollback segment configuration guidelines: REM * 1 rollback segments for every 4 concurrent xactions. REM * No more than 50 rollback segments. REM * All rollback segments the same size. REM * Between 2 and 4 homogeneously-sized extents per rollback segment. REM * Attempt to keep rollback segments to 4 extents. REM *
Of course I agreed with everything but the last two lines, but recognizing that often the online word supercedes the old documentation, I took this as being an update. Wrong! The RDBMS kernel group still supports the statement made on pg 9-5 of the RDBMS admin guide:
"In general, optimal rollback I/O perfomance is observed if each rollback segment for an instance has 10 to 20 equally sized extents."
I am sending this out in hopes to alert anyone else who may have follow down the same path that I did.
I emphatically tried to log this as a bug with Oracle Support. The would only accept this as a user enhancement request. Basically, they felt that these were only comments meant to be used as a guideline for the creating the default database. I did not get a TAR #.
I know about 'optimal' which can be used when your transaction sizes are variable, but all of my transactions are of a fixed size, so 'optimal' is not effective in this configuration.
I hope this message will have saved someone else from pursuing the same frustration that I have. I occasionally find that I am not the only ignorant DBA in the crowd! :-)
Thanks, Tim...
Tim L. Olesen INTERNET: tlolesen_at_ucdavis.edu Information Resources University of California, Davis PHONE: (916) 757-8785 Davis, CA 95616-8505 FAX: (916) 757-8778 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:59:00 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Steven G. Garner" <0004085807_at_MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Found: Latest ODBC Drivers to ORACLE7 (fwd)
>From the Oracle ODBC Driver License:
License Agreement:
If you would like to receive Oracle Support for your Oracle7 ODBC Driver, please call (415) 506-1500 in the US, or contact your local Oracle Sales office. Please note that Oracle will not provide support on the Oracle7 ODBC Driver unless a Support License Contract is in place. If you prefer to receive an actual production kit from Oracle, please call 1-800-542-1170 in the US, or contact your local Oracle Sales office.
IMPORTANT--READ THE FOLLOWING LICENSE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY BEFORE INSTALLING AND/OR USING THE PROGRAM. By installing and/or using the Program, you indicate your acceptance of the following Oracle Program License Agreement ("Agreement"). If you do not agree to the terms of this Agreement, promptly delete the Program from your computer and cease use of the Program.
Oracle Corporation ("Oracle") grants you ("Customer") a license to use the Oracle7 ODBC Driver software ("Program") as indicated below.
Customer may make and use an unlimited number of copies of the Program solely for Customer's internal data processing operations; provided that: (a) the Program is not modified in any way; and (b) Customer maintains the copyright notice on all copies of the Program. Customer may not use the Program for commercial timesharing, rental, or service bureau use. The Program may not be transferred, sold, assigned, or otherwise conveyed to another party without Oracle's prior written consent. Customer agrees not to cause or permit the reverse engineering, disassembly, or decompilation of the Program. Customer shall not disclose the results of any benchmark tests of the Programs to any third party without Oracle's prior written approval.
Customer acquires only the right to use the Program and does not acquire any rights of ownership in the Program. Oracle, or its licensor, shall at all times retain all rights, title and interest in the Program.
Oracle may terminate this Agreement if Customer breaches any of its terms. Upon termination, Customer shall cease using the Program and shall destroy or return to Oracle all copies of the Program including all modifications and merged portions in any form.
This Agreement is governed by the laws of the State of California.
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 03:34:29 EST
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From: Hans Griep <GriepH_at_NLGOU_at_CCIP.PERKIN-ELMER.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
I've tried to use the ODBC driver with MSQuery, part of Microsoft
Office.
It gave me back the error 'Obsolete database format'. It apparently
could not recognize the Access 2.0 version I was using.
Microsoft say they will come with a driver for Access 2.0 later.
Oracle 7 connections using ODBC to our Sun work great.
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Subject: Re: Latest ODBC Drivers for Windows to ORACLE7
Author: "ORACLE database mailing list."
<ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> at INTERNET
Date: 22/9/94 9:38 AM
You can get the new ODBC driver for Oracle 7 from Compuserve. It may be available elsewhere, but that's where we got it (just a few weeks ago).
Andy Townsend
townsend_at_seta.com
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 06:14:00 EST Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Eclipse Technology Inc." <0006410539_at_MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Screen Capture of Forms 4.0
Greetings,
We are trying to find a way to capture bitmap images of Forms 4.0 screens for inclusion in documentation. Does anyone know of a screen "grabber" that works for Windows and Forms 4.0?
Thanks for the tip!
Regards,
Powel Crosley
Eclipse Technology, Inc.
6410539_at_mcimail.com
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:52:32 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Paul Dorsey <DORSEY_at_RIDER.BITNET> Subject: Re: Screen Capture of Forms 4.0
Just hit alt-print screen to copy an image of the current window to the clipboard. You can then paste to your word processor or whatever.
It will capture at your screen resolution so docs can grow to impossible sizes. To use much less space, I do the following:
This also gets rid of shading so things print nicer.
To avoid the "Document that ate your disk drive," be especially wary of cropping pictures. When you crop, the whole picture is still stored, but only a portion is displayed (bad move to display an icon that way).
Happy documentation writing.
Paul Dorsey
Rider U
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:01:29 -0500
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From: Steve Quigley <squigley_at_SCTCORP.COM>
Subject: Re: Screen Capture of Forms
Reply to: RE>Screen Capture of Forms
The screen grabbing depends on what you want. If you want the bmp than you can just do screen prints to the clip board and then save them from the clib board. These are very large files. You may want to look at Hi-Jack Pro which will intercept them and allow you to save them in different formats which would be much smaller in size.
Steven J. Quigley
squigley_at_sctcorp.com
Greetings,
We are trying to find a way to capture bitmap images of Forms 4.0 screens for inclusion in documentation. Does anyone know of a screen "grabber" that works for Windows and Forms 4.0?
Thanks for the tip!
Regards,
Powel Crosley
Eclipse Technology, Inc.
6410539_at_mcimail.com
> i'm very much interested in the MVS/UNIX-ORACLE connection...
>
> - type of file system in MVS ?
> - connection between two platforms ?
> - what kind of cron jobs ?
> - etc,etc..
Here's what we currently have setup.
Hopefully, this has been helpful. Let me know if I can be of some more assistance.
Sincerely,
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
| /^^\ James Lopatosky, Database Specialist |
| | | State of Maine, Division of Data Processing |
| | | State Office Building, Station #61 |
| / \ Augusta, ME 04333 U.S.A. |
| | ___/ Voice (207) 287-3631 Fax (207) 287-6528 |
| | __/ ccjlopa_at_gatekeeper.ddp.state.me.us |
| |/ |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 08:55:56 -0400
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From: "John A. Calmon" <calmon_at_UMIS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Screen Capture of Forms 4.0
In-Reply-To: <9409231122.AA08733_at_mercury.umis.upenn.edu> from "Eclipse
Technology Inc." at Sep 23, 94 06:14:00 am
>Greetings,
>
>We are trying to find a way to capture bitmap images of Forms 4.0 screens
>for inclusion in documentation. Does anyone know of a screen "grabber"
>that works for Windows and Forms 4.0?
>
>Thanks for the tip!
>
>Regards,
>Powel Crosley
>Eclipse Technology, Inc.
I know one shareware called WinCapture from Professional Capture Systems and can be downloaded from ftp.cica.indiana.edu under /pub/pc/win3. Check the index to see the name of the zip file.
If you want to get in contact with Professional Capture, below id their order form from the help of WinCapture.
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COUNTRY_________________ TELEPHONE NUMBER_____________________ CREDIT CARD TYPE___________________________ CREDIT CARD NUMBER________________________ EXPIRATION DATE____________________________ SIGNATURE_________________________________
Disk Size prefered 3.5"_________ 5.25"__________
Professional Capture Systems
$39.00...______
Minnesota residents add 6.5% sales tax
Shipping/Handling - US or Canada $4.00...______
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Total in US Funds drawn on a US
Bank.........______
Make checks payable to: JASC, Inc.
Mail to:
JASC, Inc.
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I hope that's help
John A. Calmon Email: calmon_at_umis.upenn.edu Programming Language Administrator Voice: (215) 898-4818 University of Pennsylvania Fax: (215) 898-03863401 Walnut St., Suite 265C
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:17:10 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andy Townsend <townsend_at_SETA.COM> Subject: VB to Oracle 7 on Sun using ODBC
Good morning, everyone:
I'm curious.
As the subject states, we're using VB 3.0 prof to connect to an Oracle 7 database residing on a Sun. We're using the ODBC driver downloaded from CompuServe.
The client on which we're developing the interface is a P-90 with 32 megs of RAM.
We've successfully established a link between VB and Oracle. However, when we run simple queries on our test database (which is only 4 records of 15 fields each) it takes roughly 15-20 seconds for the system to offer a response to these queries.
We've established the link both through direct coding and through DDE data controls. In either situation the response time is still 15-20 seconds. All the hardware is in our office, so network travel time is negligible.
Has anyone encountered this sort of sluggishness before? What is the collective experience out there in this situation?
I'd really appreciate all ideas, as we're about to start performance tuning and I'd like your suggestions as to the best place to begin efforts to speed up the system a bit.
Thanks in advance; if I receive enough responses (directly and through the list) I'd be happy to compile and post the suggestions.
Andy Townsend
townsend_at_seta.com
Standard Disclaimer
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:51:11 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kevin Batson <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Re: Re[2]: DSS & Data Warehouses
> I wouldn't mind seeing this information myself. Would it be possible to share
> it with the entire list? TIA.
>
>
>
>
>
> - type of file system in MVS ?
> - connection between two platforms ?
> - what kind of cron jobs ?
> - etc,etc..
> Jim beat me to the punch, and our configuration is very similar to his, so I won't bore you with a long description.
We run NFS for MVS and NFS on the Solaris side. Our MVS accounting job runs in the early evening, and creates flat files which are defined in SQL*Loader control files in Unix. In addition to the data files, the MVS jobs create a dummy "control file" when they complete. The cron job mounts the MVS filesystem and checks for the existence of this control file, beginning at 10 pm. If they exist, the cron job copies the files over, invokes the SQL script which invokes various SQL*Loader control files, and then deletes the control file. If not, it checks every 30 minutes (4 or 5 times), and then quits.
Our accounting data is loaded nightly, but our HR data is loaded irregularly. The MVS HR job creates a control file in the same way that the accounting job does. Another cron job checks for the existence of the HR control file daily at 5 am.
I can't provide many lower-level details, since I am the Oracle guy and have only a basic working knowledge of Unix internals. I will forward your request over to the person who developed the cron jobs in our systems group. Perhaps she can add something to what I've said here.
Ideally, I guess NFS is the way to go, but we've had intermittent problems with NFS on the MVS side lately. It's likely that we'll switch back to FTP.
Both systems are on the same ethernet segment. Our nightly update is only about 10 Mb, so performance isn't much of an issue right now.
batson_at_hubcap.clemson.edu
803.656.2314
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 10:04:37 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Dave Gardner - TCC X4-3007 <GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM> Subject: Re: ACCESS 1.1 file attach to Oracle 6 server
> The table was granted to public as I indicated above. When access asked
> for the userid/password were you supplying an actual one or were you
> using something "generic"
I believe we were using the owner account and still had to grant access to public. SOme other people are now working on this problem. This was a test environment. Our problem was that Access seemed too slow for the amount of data we were using (1 million rows and 600k rows). The owners of the application wanted to try Oracle so I was called in to get the data into Oracle. I did this and managed to get attached only after granting privileges to public. I haven't worked on this since. I believe we granted public select,insert,update on the table.
Dave Gardner
GARDNER_DM_at_CORNING.COM
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From: Tony Frankland <5256_at_IBMMAIL.COM>
Subject: VB to Oracle 7 on a SUN.
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From: Frankland, Anthony E
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Subject: VB to Oracle 7 on a SUN.
Date: 1994-09-23 15:31
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Andy Townsend had a query (see text below) re VB to Oracle.
We experienced delays Andy, though not so long as yours, and never really got to the bottom of it. We had 486/33 m/c's with between 8 and 12 Mb. the server was a SUN.
What we now do is keep to ODBC (from VB, Access, Excel, Word, etc) for end-user ad-hoc queries, where response is often less of an issue, and use Oracle 'GLUE' for the pre-planned mission-critical type of applications that use the MS tools, that is MUCH faster.
However ODBC is free and Oracle Glue requires a developers licence from Oracle although the run-times are free. In the U.K. the developers licence is around $3,000 (that's pounds just in case my pound sign gets concerted to a dollar sign halfway across the atlantic)
.......................Tony ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------
As the subject states, we're using VB 3.0 prof to connect to an Oracle 7 database residing on a Sun. We're using the ODBC driver downloaded from CompuServe.
The client on which we're developing the interface is a P-90 with 32 megs of RAM.
We've successfully established a link between VB and Oracle. However, when
we run simple queries on our test database (which is only 4 records of 15
fields each) it takes roughly 15-20 seconds for the system to offer a
response
to these queries.
We've established the link both through direct coding and through DDE data controls. In either situation the response time is still 15-20 seconds. All the hardware is in our office, so network travel time is negligible.
Has anyone encountered this sort of sluggishness before? What is the collective experience out there in this situation?
I'd really appreciate all ideas, as we're about to start performance tuning and I'd like your suggestions as to the best place to begin efforts to speed up the system a bit.
Thanks in advance; if I receive enough responses (directly and through the list) I'd be happy to compile and post the suggestions.
Andy Townsend
townsend_at_seta.com
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:08:52 BST
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Thanks !
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:09:31 +0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Margarida Oliveira <mo_at_CI.UMINHO.PT> Subject: SSADM and CASE
Hi there!
Does anyone know if you can use Oracle CASE with the SSADM methodology ? I called Oracle and they said that I would have to use CASE*Interchange.
Any tip is welcome.
Best Whishes,
Margarida.
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:45:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: Re: Screen Capture of Forms 4.0 From: CBS%UK.AC.EARN-RELAY::EARN.SBCCVM::ORACLE-L 23-SEP-1994 12:54:24.77 To: HUET1
>Greetings, > >We are trying to find a way to capture bitmap images of Forms 4.0 screens >for inclusion in documentation. Does anyone know of a screen "grabber" >that works for Windows and Forms 4.0? > >Thanks for the tip! > >Regards, >Powel Crosley >Eclipse Technology, Inc. >6410539_at_mcimail.com
You can use Paint Shop Pro, this product is shareware.
or
COREL Caputure come with Coreldrw 3,4,5
Paint Shop pro is nice and easy.
You can use your mouse to caputre bits of the screen and save in most formats.
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:45:52 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Screen Capture of Forms 4.0
In-Reply-To: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> "Re: Screen Capture of
Forms 4.0" (Sep 23, 6:45pm)
The only screen capture tool I've used is HiJaak (sp?).
Hope this helps.
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:13:28 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Ashvanee Bissonauth <ABISSONAUTH_at_REGISTRAR.UALBERTA.CA> Organization: Office of the Registrar, U of A Subject: Re: Create table in PL/Sql
Hi Fred,
If you want to create a table in PL/SQL, you have to use the FORMS_DDL() function. It also supports other DML statements.
I use it quite a bit and it works fine.
Ashvanee.
P.S. Hope to meet some of you at the conference.
>Howdy! >This is to answer a question regarding Creating Table in PL/SQL. PL/SQL >does not support data dictionary manipulation and hence does not support >CREATE TABLE or INDEX, DROP TABLE or ALTER TABLE. Also, PL/SQL does not >support CONNECT, GRANT and REVOKE. >Hope it helps. >_Prasad ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 13:48:39 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Udom A. Abasi" <UDOM_at_POCI.AMIS.COM> Subject: Re: SSADM and CASE Subj: SSADM and CASE X-To: ORACLE-L_at_CCVM.SUNYSB.edu To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L%SBCCVM.BITNET_at_UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
Hello;
The answer to your question is a qualified yes!!
The Level to which you can use CASE - and by that i take it you mean
Oracle*Case - and how??, depends on the following:
The Version Of SSADM i.e Version 3 or 4;
The Version Of CASE*Dictionary 4 or 5 - In Particular The Availability
Of The User Extention Modules;
Availability Of CASE*Designer Or Some Other Analyst Work Bench, Which Can
Be Linked To The Oracle*Case backend using tools like "Exchange" from
Software One; and finally
How Flexible you are vis-a-vis tailoring SSADM e.g use of Matrix Diagrams
instead Of The Entity Life History For Non-Complex Lives etc, etc.
We Have Worked On A Number Of Projects Using SSADM & CASE - Feel Free To Contact Us Direct If You Require Further Expatiation.
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Does anyone know if you can use Oracle CASE with the SSADM methodology ? I called Oracle and they said that I would have to use CASE*Interchange.
Any tip is welcome.
Best Whishes,
Margarida.
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:10:54 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Steve Vereschagin <sveresch_at_AVPROD.GOV.COQUITLAM.BC.CA> Subject: VB to Oracle through ODBC
I was using VB to connect to Oracle V6 through ODBC and had some serious performance problems as well.
The workaround that I found was instead of accessing the data through the normal method of using a Dynaset, which I believe does some buffering of rows, I instead used a Snapshot. The snapshot according to the manual pulls all of the data across to the client workstation so they warn you about bringing too much data across and burdening your machine. The performance was much better, in the order of seconds for a query instead of 15-20 seconds.
I found some tips on this from the microsoft ftp site (ftp.microsoft.com). The document number is Q110227 in directory /developr/KB. You should download the README file to explain their directory hierarchy. I would also suggest the index of available documents. Some of the tips include items to place in the VB.INI file to create some log files of the communication going back and forth. When I did this for the Dynaset it seemed that there was an awful lot of messages going back and to bring across a set of data. The snapshot had much less of these messages.
Hope this proves helpful.
Steve Vereschagin
sveresch_at_gov.coquitlam.bc.ca
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:23:43 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Akbar Shah </PN=ash/OU=venus/@GBF-BRAUNSCHWEIG.DBP.DE> Subject: SQL*LOADER and UMLAUTS
Hallo Oracle Users
is there a way to import german Umlauts with SQL*LOADER. I have to import lots of data into RDBMS (Oracle7) and some of the data contains german characters (Ulauts), which are unfortunately converted into other characters. I would highly appreciate, if any one can help
Akbar Shah
Biologische Bundesanstalt
Braunschweig
Germany
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:55:40 PST8PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Eric Pierce <PIERCEED_at_SSWDSERVER.SSWD.CSUS.EDU> Subject: Illegal/Unethical to receive? (ODBC Drivers to ORACLE7) Date: Monday September 26, 1994 (10am USA West Coast) To: Oracle List Server Subscribers
Am I a total DODO bird, or is this still confusing (?):
From the License Agreement text, it seems like DISTIBUTING the ODBC is illegal, but receiving it from an illegal point of distribution is not. I'm not a lawyer, and maybe I'm nit-picking, but unless Oracle Corporation wants to shut down the distribution at the FTP site, doesn't this discussion item fall into the category of philosophy/ethics for the people receiving the ODBC driver?
It IS still possible to get a copy from the FTP site mentioned in various messages on this list recently. Not sure if the FTP site has THE LATEST from Oracle.
Can anyone comment/speculate on the ACTUAL legalities and/or ethics of this?
Is Oracle Corp gaining anything by letting the distribution at the FTP site continue? Do they think people are going to try it then buy it?
More (stupid?) comments from me in the following text:
> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:59:00 EST
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> Subject: Re: Found: Latest ODBC Drivers to ORACLE7 (fwd)
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> From the Oracle ODBC Driver License:
>
>
EP: They recently quoted me somewhere around $300 or $400 for
ODBC support annually for an 8 user Netware/DOS Oracle configuration. Our RDBMS (server) support is only a little more than that!
> IMPORTANT--READ THE FOLLOWING LICENSE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY BEFORE
> INSTALLING AND/OR USING THE PROGRAM.
>
EP: It does not say that you have to pay for it here does it?
> Oracle Corporation ("Oracle") grants you ("Customer") a license to use
> the Oracle7 ODBC Driver software ("Program") as indicated below.
>
EP: again, it does not say that it is illegal to RECEIVE it
without paying, right?
> Customer agrees not to cause or permit the reverse engineering,
> disassembly, or decompilation of the Program. Customer shall not
> disclose the results of any benchmark tests of the Programs to any
> third party without Oracle's prior written approval.
>
>
>
Thank you for your attention to this incredibly exciting and stimulating issue.
..
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 15:22:07 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chris Bowes <CBOWES_at_WPO.HCC.COM> Subject: Re: Illegal/Unethical to receive?
Eric Pierce Writes:
>> Oracle Corporation ("Oracle") grants you ("Customer") a license to
use
>> the Oracle7 ODBC Driver software ("Program") as indicated below.
>>
>> Customer may make and use an unlimited number of copies of the
Program
>> the copyright notice on all copies of the Program. Customer may not >> use the Program for commercial timesharing, rental, or service bureau >> use. The Program may not be transferred, sold, assigned, orotherwise
>>conveyed to another party without Oracle's prior written consent. > >EP: again, it does not say that it is illegal to RECEIVE it
I don't know. The line that says may not be transferred, sold or assigned seems to lock out receiving. If it is on the ftp site, you may not transfer it without permission. I do see the possible loophole though. The owner is the one who put it on the site, you never owned it and never had to agree to the terms. I am not too sure what to make of it. All I know is given that Lyle and Eric Menendez were not convicted, and Mrs. Bobbit was found not guilty, I'm sure that this grey area is even easier fodder for a lawyers cannon.
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:08:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Gold, Michael" <goldmi_at_UH2827P01.DAYTONOH.NCR.COM> Subject: Oracle Applications
Hello,
Does anyone know where I can locate a set of complete ERDs for the Oracle Applications. We are trying to set up Business Objects to do custom reporting for Oracle A/R, AP, INV, PUR, WIP, BOM, G/L, and OE.
Mike Gold
Michael.Gold_at_DaytonOh.NCR.COM
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:17:43 LCL Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: John Cunliffe <JCUNLIFFE_at_GACCG.CO.UK> Subject: Re: Oracle Applications
Business Objects supply an Oracle Financials universe for there product. However, I would also be interested in the ERD's
John Cunliffe
Computer Services Manager
GEC ALSTHOM Combined Cycles Ltd.
Manchester
UK
jcunliffe_at_gaccg.co.uk
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Does anyone know where I can locate a set of complete ERDs for the Oracle Applications. We are trying to set up Business Objects to do custom reporting for Oracle A/R, AP, INV, PUR, WIP, BOM, G/L, and OE.
Mike Gold
Michael.Gold_at_DaytonOh.NCR.COM
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:46:00 GMT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Huet Bartels <HUET1_at_VAXB.MIDDLESEX.AC.UK> Subject: Re: Oracle Applications >Does anyone know where I can locate a set of complete ERDs for the Oracle >Applications. We are trying to set up Business Objects to do custom >reporting for Oracle A/R, AP, INV, PUR, WIP, BOM, G/L, and OE. >
Mike , Have tryed asking Oracle for the ERDs.
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From: Jim Riesz <rieszj_at_FRB.GOV>
Subject: Re[2]: Oracle Applications
For information only. At the latest OAUG (Oracle Applications User
Group) meeting in San Fran, Noetix demo'ed a product that read the
user setup parameters and automaticalled created views, etc. with your
naming conventions. This only works with GL at the present time (I
think-- check with the vendor). We are going to follow this up
because the financials contain over 2,000 tables. The demo was good,
but I have not used the product; contact the vendor and make your own
decisions!!!!
Noetix Corp
7810 SW 66th Ave
Portland, Or 97223
noetix_at_delphi.com
(503) 243-3485
Jim Riesz
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Business Objects supply an Oracle Financials universe for there product. However, I would also be interested in the ERD's
John Cunliffe
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GEC ALSTHOM Combined Cycles Ltd.
Manchester
UK
jcunliffe_at_gaccg.co.uk
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Does anyone know where I can locate a set of complete ERDs for the Oracle Applications. We are trying to set up Business Objects to do custom reporting for Oracle A/R, AP, INV, PUR, WIP, BOM, G/L, and OE.
Mike Gold
Michael.Gold_at_DaytonOh.NCR.COM
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:58:09 -0400
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From: Vijaya Saradhi Jeedigunta <saradhi_at_VODKA.DBCC.COM>
Subject: Warning Message
In-Reply-To: <9409271313.AA19236_at_uu3.psi.com> from "John Cunliffe" at Sep 27,
94 01:17:43 pm
Hai Folks!
Can you people tell me why I am getting this warning message whenever i am going to sqlplus.
I hv create the database with the create database statement and ran the catalog.sql and other relevant dbms scripts.
although i am able to do everything with sqlplus. Its puzzling me what this warning message is all about. I found the Product_profile and User_profile tables also in sys account but with out any data. Instances i am having on other servers are also not having any data in these tables but i am not getting such warnings when invoking sqlplus.
Can anybody out there help me out.
This is what happens when i try to invoke SQLPLUS
db_server1bb{oracle}[/oracle]: sqlplus otc/otc
SQL*Plus: Release 3.1.2.3.1 - Production on Tue Sep 27 10:47:57 1994
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
Warning: Product user profile information not loaded! Error in disabling roles in product user profile.
Connected to:
ORACLE7 Server Release 7.0.15.4.0 - Production
With the procedural and distributed options
PL/SQL Release 2.0.17.1.0 - Production
SQL>
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1290, 5th Ave., 12th Floor. ISELIN.
NY City, NY - 10001. New Jersey - 08830 - 3039
Ph - 212-468-5880. Ph - 908-750-5629.
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Subject: Re: Warning Message
Vijaya,
You need to run the PUPBLD.SQL script in the SQLPLUS DEMO directory (ORA_ROOT:[SQLPLUS.DEMO] on VMS) as the SYSTEM account. This will create the product_profile table and several views and populate the table with a parameter for SQLREPORTWRITER. This will make the warning go away.
Jim Foley
Manager of Data Administration
Bentley College
Waltham, MA 02154-4705
(617)891-3419
JFOLEY_at_BENTLEY.EDU
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Hai Folks!
Can you people tell me why I am getting this warning message whenever i am going to sqlplus.
I hv create the database with the create database statement and ran the catalog.sql and other relevant dbms scripts.
although i am able to do everything with sqlplus. Its puzzling me what this warning message is all about. I found the Product_profile and User_profile tables also in sys account but with out any data. Instances i am having on other servers are also not having any data in these tables but i am not getting such warnings when invoking sqlplus.
Can anybody out there help me out.
This is what happens when i try to invoke SQLPLUS
db_server1bb{oracle}[/oracle]: sqlplus otc/otc
SQL*Plus: Release 3.1.2.3.1 - Production on Tue Sep 27 10:47:57 1994
Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
Warning: Product user profile information not loaded! Error in disabling roles in product user profile.
Connected to:
ORACLE7 Server Release 7.0.15.4.0 - Production
With the procedural and distributed options
PL/SQL Release 2.0.17.1.0 - Production
SQL>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Vijaya Saradhi Jeedigunta saradhi_at_dbcc.com
Work - Home -
Database Administrator, #407,
Deutsch Bank Securities Corporation Woodbridge Commons Way.,
1290, 5th Ave., 12th Floor. ISELIN.
NY City, NY - 10001. New Jersey - 08830 - 3039
Ph - 212-468-5880. Ph - 908-750-5629.
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From: Jurgis Kirsakmens <cherryst_at_CCLU.LV>
Subject: Problems with CASE*Generator
Hello everyone !
We working with:
CASE*Dictionary 5.0
CASE*Generator for SQL*Forms/SQL*Menu 2.0
SQL*Forms 3.0
We would be very thankful if anyone could answer the following questions concerning several problems we've met while using CASE*Generator for SQL*Forms. Any hints would be useful as well.
Can a LOV form be called by a LOV form anyway ? Can it be performed using CASE*Generator ?
2. While in the Query mode of the form only fields from the base table can be
queried.
Is there another solution to this problem than defining a relevant view and using a LOV form for information retrieval purposes ?
3. Defining a WHERE condition for a lookup table in the Module Detailed Data
Usage Screen causes the appearance of this condition in two places,- at the List of Values SQL text of the relevant field and in the procedure, which checks data consistency, called from ON-VALIDATE-FIELD trigger ( CGFK$CHK... ). Due to the usage of another ALIAS name for table in the second place commiting the form gives the following error: FRM-40735: ON-VALIDATE-FIELD trigger raised unhandled exception ORA-00904
Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem ( besides editing the generated form manually every time, which is quite a time consuming and tiring operation ) ?
Thanks in advance.
J. K'irs'akmens (cherryst_at_cclu.lv)
Software engineer
Information Systems Development
LATTELEKOM
Latvia
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 12:06:13 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Fred J. Nerk" <srinivas_at_CS.UTEP.EDU> Subject: Help SQL*Net (Oracle 7.0.16.4 -> Oracle 6.0.36.7.1)
Hi Oracle Guru's
I have problem with sqlnet. I have Oracle running on two SUN systems. I have DBA permissions.
__________________________ _________________________
|m/c 1 (borderbase) | connects |m/c 2 (mickey) |
|---------------------- |-------------------->>|---------------------- |
|Oracle 6.0.36.7.1 | |Oracle 7.0.16.4 |
|SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.3.1| |SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.7.1|
|SID UTEP |<<--------------------|SID IM3 |
-------------------------- fails ------------------------
___________________________________________________________________________
borderbase | mickey
|
1.tcpctl stat @mickey works |1. tcpctl stat @borderbase
**(for owner oracle in both) | tcputl: network read error :permission denied
2.checkTCP shows no error |2. checkTCP shows no erros
3.aliases in sqlnet |3. aliases in /etc/tnsnames.ora & /etc/sqlnet
----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
On mickey
UTS T:borderbase:UTEP <-- MIC T:mickey:IM3 <--2. Errors on mickey for sqlplus for given strig are
% sqlplus scott/tiger_at_T:borderbase:UTEP <--ERROR: ORA-06401: NETCMN: invalid driver designator (Cnct err, can't get err txt. See Servr Msgs & Codes Manual)
% sqlplus scott/tiger_at_UTS <--ERROR: ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name
ftp, telnet works on both sides. I would appreciate if someone can let me know what is the problem and how i could rectify it. Thanks for your time and help.
Regards
Srini
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:46:38 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Kevin T. Batson" <batson_at_HUBCAP.CLEMSON.EDU> Subject: Re: Warning Message >Hai Folks! >
I think you need to run the pupbld.sql script...
>
>I hv create the database with the create database statement and ran the
>catalog.sql and other relevant dbms scripts.
>
>although i am able to do everything with sqlplus. Its puzzling me
>what this warning message is all about. I found the Product_profile and
>User_profile tables also in sys account but with out any data.
>Instances i am having on other servers are also not having any
>data in these tables but i am not getting such warnings when invoking sqlplus.
>
>Can anybody out there help me out.
>
>This is what happens when i try to invoke SQLPLUS
>
>===============================================================================
>=
>
>db_server1bb{oracle}[/oracle]: sqlplus otc/otc
>
>SQL*Plus: Release 3.1.2.3.1 - Production on Tue Sep 27 10:47:57 1994
>
>Copyright (c) Oracle Corporation 1979, 1992. All rights reserved.
>
>Warning: Product user profile information not loaded!
>Error in disabling roles in product user profile.
>
>Connected to:
>ORACLE7 Server Release 7.0.15.4.0 - Production
>With the procedural and distributed options
>PL/SQL Release 2.0.17.1.0 - Production
>
>SQL>
>
>===============================================================================
>=
=========================================================================
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:55:29 -0500
Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET>
Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET>
From: TOM MERCADANTE <MERCADTF_at_SNYPLAVA.BITNET>
Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA
Subject: Re: Reply DSS & Data Warehouses
Date sent: 27-SEP-1994 13:54:03
Rayapeddi,
Can you provide more information regarding this book - like the publisher name? I tried to order it through our college library and they were unable to find it. Any additional info that you have would be helpfull - publishers name, date, etc.
Thanks
Tom
>I am building a database on similar lines. >Building the Data Warehouse by W.H.Inom (ISBN 0-89435-404-3) is a good >reference book. Hope it answers your question. > >Regards > >Rayapeddi >IMMM, El Paso, TX. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % % Tom Mercadante % % Database Administrator % % SUNY Plattsburgh % % % % BITNET : MERCADTF_at_SNYPLAVB.BITNET % % INTERNET : MERCADTF_at_SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU Computer Systems Center % % PHONE : (518)564-3013 Kehoe 507 % % Plattsburgh, NY 12901 % % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:18:08 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Bruce Miller <miller_at_BIOENG.RAD.MED.UMICH.EDU> Subject: install challenges
I am installing oracle7 on a decstation 3100 running ultrix 4.3a. The latest difficulty is in 'create database objects'. The install from window pops up, but there's nothing in the window. The first time I tried it went through the install of the server and said it finished installing all the dbf and log files and everything and I gave about 5 passwords for different stuff. But afterwards, the dbf files and log files had not been created. I did run root.sh but there were errors in some of the chmod calls.
If anyone has any clues as to how to create the database, let me know.
Thank you for your support.
Bruce Miller
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:33:52 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jim Foley <JFOLEY_at_BENTLEY.BITNET> Subject: Re: Help SQL*Net (Oracle 7.0.16.4 -> Oracle 6.0.36.7.1)
Srini,
I am having a similar problem on a VAX/DECNET with a PRO*C program that worked under 7.0.12 with only SQL*NET 1.2 installed but will not work with 7.0.16.4 with SQL*NET 1.2 and SQL*NET 2.0 installed. I am getting the ORA-06401 error trying to connect from a V7 machine to a V6 database. I have a TAR 106239.816 open with Oracle but no luck so far. If you find an answer please let me know.
Jim Foley
Manager of Data Administration
Bentley College
Waltham, MA 02154-4705
(617)891-3419
JFOLEY_at_BENTLEY.EDU
Included text:
Hi Oracle Guru's
I have problem with sqlnet. I have Oracle running on two SUN systems. I have DBA permissions.
__________________________ _________________________
|m/c 1 (borderbase) | connects |m/c 2 (mickey) |
|---------------------- |-------------------->>|---------------------- |
|Oracle 6.0.36.7.1 | |Oracle 7.0.16.4 |
|SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.3.1| |SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.7.1|
|SID UTEP |<<--------------------|SID IM3 |
-------------------------- fails ------------------------
___________________________________________________________________________
borderbase | mickey
|
1.tcpctl stat @mickey works |1. tcpctl stat @borderbase
**(for owner oracle in both) | tcputl: network read error :permission denied
2.checkTCP shows no error |2. checkTCP shows no erros
3.aliases in sqlnet |3. aliases in /etc/tnsnames.ora & /etc/sqlnet
----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
On mickey
UTS T:borderbase:UTEP <-- MIC T:mickey:IM3 <--2. Errors on mickey for sqlplus for given strig are
% sqlplus scott/tiger_at_T:borderbase:UTEP <--ERROR: ORA-06401: NETCMN: invalid driver designator (Cnct err, can't get err txt. See Servr Msgs & Codes Manual)
% sqlplus scott/tiger_at_UTS <--ERROR: ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name
ftp, telnet works on both sides. I would appreciate if someone can let me know what is the problem and how i could rectify it. Thanks for your time and help.
Regards
Srini
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 17:53:06 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: ROB VONDERHAAR <sarvo_at_SAGUS.COM> Subject: Data Warehouse or DSS Lists?
Please forgive my slightly off-topic request.. but do any of you know of any lists that cover data warehousing, end-user query/reporting, decision support, etc.?
I have searched and have so far found nothing, but would be surprised if there weren't such lists someplace given the increasing interest in these topics of late.
TIA for any suggestions..
Rob Vonderhaar
Software AG
Reston, VA
Internet: sarvo_at_paxos.sagus.com
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:31:41 -0200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Jurgis Kirsakmens <cherryst_at_CCLU.LV> Subject: Problems with CASE*Generator
Hello everyone !
We are working in the following environment:
ORACLE Server 6.0
SQL*Forms 3.0
CASE*Dictionary 5.0
CASE*Generator for SQL*Forms/SQL*Menu 2.0
We would be very thankful if anyone could answer the following questions concerning several problems we've met while using CASE*Generator for SQL*Forms. Any hints would be useful as well.
Can a LOV form be called by a LOV form anyway ? Can it be performed using CASE*Generator ?
2. While in the Query mode of the form only fields from the base table can be
queried.
Is there another solution to this problem than defining a relevant view and using a LOV form for information retrieval purposes ?
3. Defining a WHERE condition for a lookup table in the Module Detailed Data
Usage Screen causes the appearance of this condition in two places,- at the List of Values SQL text of the relevant field and in the procedure, which checks data consistency, called from ON-VALIDATE-FIELD trigger ( CGFK$CHK... ). Due to the usage of another ALIAS name for table in the second place commiting the form gives the following error: FRM-40735: ON-VALIDATE-FIELD trigger raised unhandled exception ORA-00904
Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem ( besides editing the generated form manually every time, which is quite a time consuming and tiring operation ) ?
Thanks in advance.
J. K'irs'akmens (cherryst_at_cclu.lv)
Software engineer
Information Systems Development
LATTELEKOM
Latvia
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:36:14 GMT+200 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: ANNELIZE MEINTJES - GRID RKS <AM_at_SCROOGE.HSRC.AC.ZA> Organization: Human Sciences Research Council Subject: Phantom of the Console
I am trying to use Phantom of the Console to schedule daily shutdown and startups to take backups for both Oracle 6 and Oracle 7 on Netware.
Can anybody please tell me what the phantom scripts should contain, especially how to connect. How do I handle Version 6 'set authorization' and version 7 'connect internal'?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Internet: am_at_ludwig.hsrc.ac.za
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 21:31:40 -500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "David L. Dennis" <ddennis_at_LIBRA.AFSOC.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: Help SQL*Net (Oracle 7.0.16.4 -> Oracle 6.0.36.7.1)In-Reply-To: <9409271408.aa10993_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil>
On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Fred J. Nerk wrote:
Srini,
Which SUN OS platform are you running? (SUNOS 4.x or SUNOS 5.x) (I don't know that it really matters, but the installation instructions for SQL*Net were squirley on my SUNOS 5 install (Solaris 2.3).
> Hi Oracle Guru's
>> I have DBA permissions.
> I have problem with sqlnet. I have Oracle running on two SUN systems.
>> **(for owner oracle in both) | tcputl: network read error :permission denie
> __________________________ _________________________
> |m/c 1 (borderbase) | connects |m/c 2 (mickey) |
> |---------------------- |-------------------->>|---------------------- |
> |Oracle 6.0.36.7.1 | |Oracle 7.0.16.4 |
> |SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.3.1| |SQL*Net TCP/IP 1.2.7.7.1|
> |SID UTEP |<<--------------------|SID IM3 |
> -------------------------- fails ------------------------
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> borderbase | mickey
> |
> 1.tcpctl stat @mickey works |1. tcpctl stat @borderbase
>> ERROR: ORA-06401: NETCMN: invalid driver designator
> % sqlplus scott/tiger_at_T:borderbase:UTEP <--
>> ERROR: ORA-12154: TNS:could not resolve database name
> % sqlplus scott/tiger_at_UTS <--
>
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
ddennis_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:50:40 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Udom A. Abasi" <UDOM_at_POCI.AMIS.COM> Subject: Re: Create table in PL/Sql
hello,
Has anyone figured out how to disable or change functions of keys
within sql*menu50 - as in sql*forms changes to key triggers.
regards
udom
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:18:22 PST8PDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Eric Pierce <PIERCEED_at_SSWDSERVER.SSWD.CSUS.EDU> Subject: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp? (fwd)
To all concerned non Compu$erve-connected Oracle users:
The free ODBC drivers are gone.
Following is an edited conversation between the FTP site, a quasi-offical Oracle person and myself.
If anybody wants to get pissed off at me, fine. I learned the hard way on this one. I guess serendipity rules on the internet. The old saying "In a bureaucracy it is easier to get forgiveness than permission" has been proven once again!
Maybe the Oracle community can use any pain arising from this situation as motivation to pressure Oracle into speeding up the development of an Oracle www/ftp service.
Eric Pierce
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 94 14:44:13 PDT From: "xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xxxxx_at_us.oracle.com> Subject: Re: Re: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp? (fwd)
I really shouldn't be the official mouthpiece of Oracle Corporate, since I'm just a lowly tech support guy! :^) But my direct management tells me we currently are only allowing the driver to be distributed from Compuserve.
Received: 28 Sep 1994 13:41:05 Sent: 28 Sep 1994 13:40:42 To: xxxxx_at_us.oracle.com Subject: Re: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp? (fwd)
Hi,
Per the following, can I post a summary on Oracle-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET?
Thanks,
Eric Pierce
Subject: Re: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp? (fwd) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Bixby" <markb_at_spock.dis.cccd.edu>
The official answer is "no" distribution via anonymous ftp. Someday Oracle plans to establish an official www/ftp presence. Perhaps then it will be directly available from them.
I have removed it from ftp.cccd.edu.
You can quote me far and wide, but it would probably be a breach of netiquette to quote xxxxxxxxx xxxx without his permission. Summarize him in your own words instead.
xxxxxxxxx xxxx writes:
> From xxxxx_at_us.oracle.com Tue Sep 27 16:03:35 1994
> To: markb_at_cccd.edu
> Subject: Re: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp?
> >
>
>
>
>
>> From:"Mark Bixby" <markb_at_spock.dis.cccd.edu>
> Received: 27 Sep 1994 14:44:07 Sent: 27 Sep 1994 14:38:51
> Subject: Oracle ODBC driver via anon ftp?
> Reply-to: markb_at_cccd.edu
>
> There is some debate in the Internet community of Oracle users as to whether
or
> not it is proper to make the Oracle ODBC driver available via anonymous ftp
> sites. LICENSE.WRI seems to forbid this; yet:
>
>
>
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:56:32 -0700 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: cvaba357_at_CSUPOMONA.EDU Subject: Security rights
Hello Oracle Guru:
Can someone tell share the knowledge how I can check with rights does
an user have on SQL*forms ver 3.0.16, SQL*menu ver 5.0.11 and SQL*rep v1.1.13?
I am having problem figuring out how the system was setup by previous DBA who
is not longer around. As far as I can tell there is one account for production
and one account for development(dev). How can I tell what rights does each a/c
have? Also, what is a good practice when doing development? Should I set up
another instance just for development? and another for production database?
I guess my problem here was we are using only one database for prod. and
develp.How should iron all these out and have some procedures written down.
Thanks
in-advance.
JT
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 16:35:31 +0800 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Chris Chillidog Chelliah <chelliah_at_CS.UWA.EDU.AU> Subject: SQLDA and SQLCA structures
Hiya Oracle-ites,
I'm an Honours student doing some research on distributed databases and an open call interface for relational databases.
I need to know the structure of Oracle's SQLDA, SQLVAR and SQLCA structures for Embedded C applications....I don't really know of any local Oracle site that can help me quickly by looking it up in a manual. I need it rather urgently (within the next two days!)
Effectively all I need is the C type declarations for these structures. For eg.
typedef struct _sqlda {
short sqld;
.....
} SQLDA;
etc etc
It would be greatly appreciated if someone could e-mail me these structures or else just fax them to me (on the number below). If you are faxing me, please send me some e-mail so that I know to look in the fax machine.
thanks heaps
Chris
chelliah_at_cs.uwa.edu.au _--_|\ Christopher Chelliah hunk_at_tartarus.uwa.edu.au / \ Dept of Computer Science Phone: +61-91-43-4523 *_.--._/ The University of Western Australia FAX: +61-91 43-4798 v Crawley, Perth 6009 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:31:10 MDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Pinchas Nisenson <62608_at_UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA> Subject: An alternative to Compuserve ?
FROM: Pinchas Nisenson
We would like to know if there is an "no-cost"
Oracle alternative to Compusreve access
for Oracle support, fixes etc ...
Microsoft has announced an W.W.W. access for their staff
so people do not have to use an Compuserve account.
Do you know if Oracle is planning on doing the same ?.
And when is it going to be available ?.
Thanks ...
Pinchas Nisenson Internet: pnisenso_at_ucdasvm1.admin.ucalgary.ca Operating Systems Support Phone: (403) 220-4447 University of Calgary Computing Services Fax: (403) 220-9361 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:47:44 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Scott Mattes <Postmaster_at_NAVSEALOG.I-NET.COM> Subject: Re: An alternative to Compuserve ?
This very thing has been discussed ad nuaseaum on comp.databases.oracle lately. The word from an unofficial Oracle support person was that Oracle is working on a WWW presence on the net, but no time frame was given.
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:48:36 CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: almquist paul <almqpf_at_CVTC-CIS.CHIPPEWA.TEC.WI.US> Subject: Oracle and WWW?
I'm just a rookie at unix system admin, C, internet and such stuff and got a gopher server and client installed on out HP9000/800 in just a few hours - most of that reading documentation. If I can do that certainly Oracle can do a Web server.
If someone can find the email addresses of the right people in Oracle I'd be happy to send them my encouragement to get on with it. If we all did that I wonder what would happen. A flood of mail sways the politicians, maybe it will work with Oracle too.
Anyone got an address list?
--
+------------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Paul F. Almquist | Chippewa Valley | | Instructor & System Administrator | Technical College | | Computer Information Systems Dept | 620 W. Clairemont Avenue | | e-mail: | Eau Claire, WI 54701 | | almqpf_at_cvtc-cis.chippewa.tec.wi.us | voice: 715-833-6386 | | palmquist_at_mail.chippewa.tec.wi.us | fax: 715-833-6470 | +------------------------------------+----------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 13:42:00 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Wolf, Donald" <wolfdo_at_UH3303P02.DAYTONOH.NCR.COM> Subject: Sizing an Oracle7 database
Howdy,
I am somewhat of a newbie DBA and will be setting up a database here real soon. The box I will be setting it up on is a UNIX machine and will be running Oracle7. My questions relate to the size I should allocate for the database to be created. My users are not quite sure how big they will need the database to be. Should I try and use a more conservative guess on the database size or a rather liberal one? I realize that if the guess is conservative that I could add data files to make the database bigger, but is that going to end up being a monitoring/maintenance headache? If the guess is too liberal and we decide to down-size the database, what would be involved in such an undertaking. Thanks in advance for any help you can lend.
Don Wolf
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:11:39 -0400 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kent Siemers <kjs_at_UMICH.EDU> Subject: Re: Oracle and WWW?
On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, almquist paul wrote:
> I'm just a rookie at unix system admin, C, internet and such stuff and got
> a gopher server and client installed on out HP9000/800 in just a few
> hours - most of that reading documentation. If I can do that certainly
> Oracle can do a Web server.
>
>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:29:56 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sharon Scheller <scheller_at_NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> Subject: Spell Checker
We are looking for an interactive spell checker to use with our Oracle applications. The objective is to run the spell checker on data which is entered into forms (anything from one or two words to a several pages of text), and allow the user to interactively correct epelling mistakes and add words to the dictionary.
We would like to avoid having to create a product if something is commercially available.
Any ideas are welcome -- thanks in advance.
Sharon Scheller scheller_at_nadc.nadc.navy.mil
215-441-7082 (voice)
215-441-3225 (fax)
Naval Air Warfare Center
Aircraft Division
Warminster, PA 18974
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:55:26 -0600
Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET>
Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET>
From: Doug Faughnan <dfaughn%comagic_at_COMAGIC.MNET.USWEST.COM>
Subject: SQLDA and SQLCA structures
In-Reply-To: Chris Chillidog Chelliah's message of Thu,
29 Sep 1994 16:35:31 +0800
<199409290844.CAA09632_at_uswat.advtech.uswest.com>
Chris
Here are the .h files in our $ORACLE_HOME/proc/lib directory. Don't know what the SQLVAR is all about, but I hope this helps you. Good luck with your project.
Doug Faughnan
US WEST, Denver
/*
/*************************************************************** * The SQLDA descriptor definition * *--------------------------------------------------------------* * VAX/3B Version * * * * Copyright (c) 1987 by Oracle Corporation * ***************************************************************/
/* MODIFIED
Vgokhale 03/30/93 - Missed long F last time
Vgokhale 03/23/93 - Ifdef long to int for DEC Alpha
Morse 12/01/87 - undef L and S for v6 include files
Richey 07/13/87 - change int defs to long
Clare 09/13/84 - Port: Ch types to match SQLLIB structs
Clare 10/02/86 - Add ifndef SQLDA
*/
#ifndef SQLDA_
#define SQLDA_ 1
#ifdef T # undef T #endif #ifdef F # undef F #endif #ifdef S # undef S #endif #ifdef L
struct SQLDA {
#if defined(__alpha) && defined(__osf__)
int N; /* Descriptor size in number of entries */
#else
long N; /* Descriptor size in number of entries */
#endif
char **V; /* Ptr to Arr of addresses of main variables */
#if defined(__alpha) && defined(__osf__)
int *L; /* Ptr to Arr of lengths of buffers */
#else
long *L; /* Ptr to Arr of lengths of buffers */
#endif
short *T; /* Ptr to Arr of types of buffers */
short **I; /* Ptr to Arr of addresses of indicator vars */
#if defined(__alpha) && defined(__osf__)
int F; /* Number of variables found by DESCRIBE */
#else
long F; /* Number of variables found by DESCRIBE */
#endif
char **S; /* Ptr to Arr of variable name pointers */ short *M; /* Ptr to Arr of max lengths of var. names */ short *C; /* Ptr to Arr of current lengths of var. names */ char **X; /* Ptr to Arr of ind. var. name pointers */ short *Y; /* Ptr to Arr of max lengths of ind. var. names */ short *Z; /* Ptr to Arr of cur lengths of ind. var. names */};
typedef struct SQLDA SQLDA;
#endif
/*
/* Copyright (c) 1985,1986 by Oracle Corporation. */
/*
NAME
SQLCA : SQL Communications Area.
FUNCTION
Contains no code. Oracle fills in the SQLCA with status info
during the execution of a SQL stmt.
NOTES
If the symbol SQLCA_STORAGE_CLASS is defined, then the SQLCA
will be defined to have this storage class. For example:
#define SQLCA_STORAGE_CLASS extern
will define the SQLCA as an extern.
If the symbol SQLCA_INIT is defined, then the SQLCA will be statically initialized. Although this is not necessary in order to use the SQLCA, it is a good pgming practice not to have unitialized variables. However, some C compilers/OS's don't allow automatic variables to be init'd in this manner. Therefore, if you are INCLUDE'ing the SQLCA in a place where it would be an automatic AND your C compiler/OS doesn't allow this style of initialization, then SQLCA_INIT should be left undefined -- all others can define SQLCA_INIT if they wish.
If the symbol SQLCA_NONE is defined, then the SQLCA variable will not be defined at all. The symbol SQLCA_NONE should not be defined in source modules that have embedded SQL. However, source modules that have no embedded SQL, but need to manipulate a sqlca struct passed in as a parameter, can set the SQLCA_NONE symbol to avoid creation of an extraneous sqlca variable.
MODIFIED
VGokhale 04/16/93 - Change longs to ints for DEC Alpha
losborne 08/11/92 - No sqlca var if SQLCA_NONE macro set
Clare 12/06/84 - Ch SQLCA to not be an extern. Clare 10/21/85 - Add initialization. Bradbury 01/05/86 - Only initialize when SQLCA_INIT set Clare 06/12/86 - Add SQLCA_STORAGE_CLASS option.*/
#ifndef SQLCA
#define SQLCA 1
struct sqlca
{
/* ub1 */ char sqlcaid[8];
#if defined(__osf__) && defined(__alpha)
/* b4 */ int sqlabc;
/* b4 */ int sqlcode;
#else
/* b4 */ long sqlabc;
/* b4 */ long sqlcode;
#endif
struct
{
/* ub2 */ unsigned short sqlerrml;
/* ub1 */ char sqlerrmc[70];
} sqlerrm;
/* ub1 */ char sqlerrp[8];
#if defined(__osf__) && defined(__alpha)
/* b4 */ int sqlerrd[6];
#else
/* b4 */ long sqlerrd[6];
#endif
/* ub1 */ char sqlwarn[8];
/* ub1 */ char sqlext[8];
};
#ifndef SQLCA_NONE
#ifdef SQLCA_STORAGE_CLASS
SQLCA_STORAGE_CLASS struct sqlca sqlca
#else
struct sqlca sqlca
#endif
#ifdef SQLCA_INIT
#endif
/* end SQLCA */
/*
/* Copyright (c) 1985 by Oracle Corporation. */
/*
NAME
ORACA : Oracle Communications Area.
FUNCTION
Contains no code. Provides supplementary communications to/from
Oracle (in addition to standard SQLCA).
NOTES
oracchf : Check cursor cache consistency flag. If set AND oradbgf
is set, then directs SQLLIB to perform cursor cache
consistency checks before every cursor operation
(OPEN, FETCH, SELECT, INSERT, etc.).
oradbgf : Master DEBUG flag. Used to turn all DEBUG options
on or off.
orahchf : Check Heap consistency flag. If set AND oradbgf is set,
then directs SQLLIB to perform heap consistency checks
everytime memory is dynamically allocated/free'd via
sqlalc/sqlfre/sqlrlc. MUST BE SET BEFORE 1ST CONNECT
and once set cannot be cleared (subsequent requests
to change it are ignored).
orastxtf: Save SQL stmt text flag. If set, then directs SQLLIB
to save the text of the current SQL stmt in orastxt
(in VARCHAR format).
orastxt : Saved len and text of current SQL stmt (in VARCHAR
format).
orasfnm : Saved len and text of filename containing current SQL
stmt (in VARCHAR format).
Cursor cache statistics. Set after COMMIT or ROLLBACK. Each CONNECT'd DATABASE has its own set of statistics.
orahoc : Highest Max Open OraCursors requested. Highest value
for MAXOPENCURSORS by any CONNECT to this DATABASE. oramoc : Max Open OraCursors required. Specifies the max nr
of OraCursors required to run this pgm. Can be higher
than orahoc if working set (MAXOPENCURSORS) was set
too low, thus forcing the PCC to expand the cache.
oracoc : Current nr of OraCursors used.
oranor : Nr of OraCursor cache reassignments. Can show the
degree of "thrashing" in the cache. Optimally, this
nr should be kept as low as possible (time vs space
optimization).
ship of oranex to oranpr should be kept as high as
possible.
If the symbol ORACA_NONE is defined, then there will be no ORACA *variable*, although there will still be a struct defined. This macro should not normally be defined in application code.
If the symbol ORACA_INIT is defined, then the ORACA will be statically initialized. Although this is not necessary in order to use the ORACA, it is a good pgming practice not to have unitialized variables. However, some C compilers/OS's don't allow automatic variables to be init'd in this manner. Therefore, if you are INCLUDE'ing the ORACA in a place where it would be an automatic AND your C compiler/OS doesn't allow this style of initialization, then ORACA_INIT should be left undefined -- all others can define ORACA_INIT if they wish.
OWNER
Clare
DATE
10/19/85
MODIFIED
VGokhale 04/16/93 - Change all longs to ints for DEC Alpha
losborne 09/04/92 - Make oraca variable optional
Osborne 05/24/90 - Add ORACA_STORAGE_CLASS construct
Clare 02/20/86 - PCC [10101l] Feature: Heap consistency check.
Clare 03/04/86 - PCC [10101r] Port: ORACA init ifdef.
Clare 03/12/86 - PCC [10101ab] Feature: ORACA cuc statistics.
*/
#ifndef ORACA
#define ORACA 1
struct oraca
{
char oracaid[8]; /* Reserved */
#if defined(__osf__) && defined(__alpha)
int oracabc; /* Reserved */
#else
long oracabc; /* Reserved */
#endif
/* Flags which are setable by User. */
#if defined(__osf__) && defined(__alpha)
int oracchf; /* <> 0 if "check cur cache consistncy"*/
int oradbgf; /* <> 0 if "do DEBUG mode checking" */
int orahchf; /* <> 0 if "do Heap consistency check" */
int orastxtf; /* SQL stmt text flag */
#else
long oracchf; /* <> 0 if "check cur cache consistncy"*/
long oradbgf; /* <> 0 if "do DEBUG mode checking" */
long orahchf; /* <> 0 if "do Heap consistency check" */
long orastxtf; /* SQL stmt text flag */
#endif
#define ORASTFNON 0 /* = don't save text of SQL stmt */
#define ORASTFERR 1 /* = only save on SQLERROR */
#define ORASTFWRN 2 /* = only save on SQLWARNING/SQLERROR */
#define ORASTFANY 3 /* = always save */
struct
{
unsigned short orastxtl;
char orastxtc[70];
} orastxt; /* text of last SQL stmt */
struct
{
unsigned short orasfnml;
char orasfnmc[70];
} orasfnm; /* name of file containing SQL stmt */
#if defined(__osf__) && defined(__alpha)
int oraslnr; /* line nr-within-file of SQL stmt */
int orahoc; /* highest max open OraCurs requested */
int oramoc; /* max open OraCursors required */
int oracoc; /* current OraCursors open */
int oranor; /* nr of OraCursor re-assignments */
int oranpr; /* nr of parses */
int oranex; /* nr of executes */
#else
long oraslnr; /* line nr-within-file of SQL stmt */
long orahoc; /* highest max open OraCurs requested */
long oramoc; /* max open OraCursors required */
long oracoc; /* current OraCursors open */
long oranor; /* nr of OraCursor re-assignments */
long oranpr; /* nr of parses */
long oranex; /* nr of executes */
#endif
};
#ifndef ORACA_NONE
#ifdef ORACA_STORAGE_CLASS
ORACA_STORAGE_CLASS struct oraca oraca
#else
struct oraca oraca
#endif
#ifdef ORACA_INIT
=
{
{'O','R','A','C','A',' ',' ',' '},
sizeof(struct oraca),
0,0,0,0,
{0,{0}},
{0,{0}},
0,
0,0,0,0,0,0
}
#endif
;
#endif
#endif
/* end oraca.h */
/*
/* Copyright (c) 1988 by Oracle Corporation */
/* NAME
sqlcpr.h
FUNCTION
Contains all prototypes for sql* routines for use of Pro*C Version 1.3
with AT&T's C++ preprocessor, Versions 1.2 and 2.0.
NOTES
*/
#ifndef __cplusplus
extern void sqlab2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short**);
extern void sqlad2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short**);
extern void sqlbcc( int*, int* );
unsigned short*, unsigned short**, int*, int* );
extern void sqlcls( int* );
extern void sqlcom( int* );
extern void sqlexe( int* );
extern void sqlfcc( void );
unsigned short*, char**, unsigned short*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short* );
extern void sqlgd2( unsigned long*, long*, char **, unsigned short*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned short* );
extern void sqlgf2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned char**,
unsigned long*, unsigned short* );
extern void sqlgri( int*, unsigned char** );
extern void sqllo2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, int*, int*,
unsigned long* );
extern void sqlnul( unsigned short*, unsigned short*, int* );
extern void sqloca( struct oraca *, char*, int *, int * );
extern void sqlopn( int*, int*, unsigned long* );
extern void sqlos2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short** );
extern void sqlosq( char*, int* );
extern void sqlpf2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned char**,
unsigned long*, unsigned short* );
extern void sqlprc( unsigned long*, int*, int* );
extern void sqlrol( int* );
extern void sqlsc2( struct sqlca* );
extern void sqlsca( struct sqlca* );
extern void sqlscc( int* );
extern void sqlsch( int* );
extern void sqlsqs( char*, unsigned int* );
extern void sqltfl( int*, int* );
#else
extern "C" { void sqlab2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short**); }
extern "C" { void sqlad2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short**); }
extern "C" { void sqlbcc( int*, int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlbs2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short**, int*, int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlcls( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlcom( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlexe( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlfcc( void ); }
unsigned short*, char**, unsigned short*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlgd2( unsigned long*, long*, char **, unsigned short*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned short* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlgf2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned char**,
unsigned long*, unsigned short* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlgri( int*, unsigned char** ); }
extern "C" { void sqllo2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, int*, int*,
unsigned long* ); }
extern "C" { void sqloca( struct oraca *, char*, int *, int * ); }
extern "C" { void sqlopn( int*, int*, unsigned long* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlos2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned short** ); }
extern "C" { void sqlosq( char*, int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlpf2( unsigned long*, unsigned char**, unsigned long*,
unsigned short*, unsigned long*, unsigned char**,
unsigned long*, unsigned short* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlrol( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlsc2( struct sqlca* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlsca( struct sqlca* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlscc( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlsch( int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlsqs( char*, unsigned int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqltfl( int*, int* ); }
extern "C" { void sqltoc( int*, int*, unsigned long* ); }
extern "C" { void sqlwnr( void ); }
#endif
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 18:39:15 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> Subject: catalog fragmentation
I have recently begun performance tuning for a data warehouse application which is close to going live. The front-end application creates views for each query submitted by a user, then drops the view once the query has completed. In my initial review of the system, I noticed that the dictionary cache hit ratio was relatively low (<90%), and upon further investigation, noticed that the system VIEW$ catalog table was already up to 8 extents.
Since the system has not been stressed yet, I fear that the extent allocation will continue to grow once the system is live. Due to the constant adding and deleting of rows, there must be a fair amount of fragmented space within each extent.
My question (finally) is, is there any way to defragment catalog tables without dropping the database?
Also, is a client design which incorporates a DDL statement with each query feasible?
Any comments would be appreciated.
Regards,
Rich Bromberg | dbINTELLECT Technologies, Inc.
Database Consultant | Lakewood, Colo.
| (303) 763-3822
| email: bromberg_at_dbintellect.com
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Subject: Re: Spell Checker
Sharon,
What platform? DOS, Unix, VMS, CMS, etc.
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:41:38 -500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "David L. Dennis" <ddennis_at_LIBRA.AFSOC.AF.MIL> Subject: Re: Sizing an Oracle7 databaseIn-Reply-To: <9409291318.aa03526_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil>
Don,
I'm a newbie at this also, so you might want to weigh this advice
accordingly, BUT...
With the assistance of a highly paid Oracle consultant, we have set up our database to be EXTREMELY liberal. Of course, this is primarily due to the fact that the WAG taken at the size of the database (which was used to spec the hardware and disk requirements) was off by a factor of about 10, so we've got LOTS of extra space. If you've got the room, I'd suggest being very liberal.
However, if you're like most of us (usually are ;-)) you might want to be more conservative. You can set up your data spaces to grow according to the needs of the data, but this can degrade performance. You can always fix the performance problem by exporting, recreating (properly sized) and importing the database, but that takes time, etc. If you've got the luxury of time on your side (i.e. the database is not a mission-critical real-time transaction processor - or worse) then I would suggest sizing as liberally as you are comfortable with - but not necessarily trying to allocate everything you will ever need.
In a nutshell, you'll be more upset if you undersize than if you oversize.
If any of the more seasoned DBA's out there would care to comment, I too would like to see the feedback.
On Thu, 29 Sep 1994, Wolf, Donald wrote:
> Howdy,
>
David L. Dennis
ARINC Research Corporation
ddennis_at_libra.afsoc.af.mil
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 05:43:48 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Sharon Scheller <scheller_at_NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> Subject: Re: Spell Checker
We are currently on Sun Sparc workstations running SunOS 4.1.3, but we will be upgrading to Solaris 2.3 (or higher) within a few months.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 08:21:37 CST6CDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Andrew McAllister <MCALLISTER_at_NEPTUNE.GRAD.MISSOURI.EDU> Organization: UMC Graduate School Subject: Re: Oracle and WWW?> Try "RBAKER_at_us.oracle.com". This address was recently published in
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 14:11:39 -0400
> From: Kent Siemers <kjs_at_UMICH.EDU>
If you plan to write Randy, I suggest that you be very CONSTRUCTIVE and make lots of meaningfull suggestions. Flaming Randy over tech support issues etc will just make him change his e-mail address.
In my opinion any company that has over $2 billion in sales and
hasn't put up an ftp site is really behind the times. Oracle's
Compu$erve forum us a weak attempt to publish patches etc.
Andrew McAllister -- Programmer/Analyst II
Office of Research, University of Missouri-Columbia
McAllister_at_neptune.grad.missouri.edu
Voice: 314.884-6237 (USA)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 09:25:19 -0400
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From: Vijaya Saradhi Jeedigunta <saradhi_at_VODKA.DBCC.COM>
Subject: Re: catalog fragmentation
In-Reply-To: <9409300032.AA10210_at_uu3.psi.com> from "Rich Bromberg" at Sep 29,
94 06:39:15 pm
>
>
>
oneway of getting rid of fragmentation is to export the entire database., recreate the database and then import.
But since you do not want to drop the database. the only way i can think of
is to find out the tables which are having chained rows. This you can
do by the command
analyze table table_name list chained rows;
(Note : This command requires a chained_rows which in turn can be created
by using the script utlchain.sql in $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin
directory).
create table ... as select * from .... So you hv to create the table and then insert the chained rows.
Good luck.
Vijay
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> Rich Bromberg | dbINTELLECT Technologies, Inc.
> Database Consultant | Lakewood, Colo.
> | (303) 763-3822
> | email: bromberg_at_dbintellect.com
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> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 10:06:37 -0500 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Kurt Jordan CUSS <jordanka_at_PUCAL1A.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU> Subject: Re: initial data base sizing
We migrated from CICS VSAM data sets to ORACLE, so in sizing our production data base, we knew the amount of initial rows we had to be loaded. I ran these through the table sizing algorthm in the ORACLE manual.
Using historical figures, our appl. prog. manager then estimated growth for a five year period (the estimated useful life of the computer system) in the form of rows added to the few tables in the application that would hold the majority of the data.
I ran these through the table sizing algorthm, added the results to the amount of space needed for the initial rows to be loaded, and then used these figures to size our tablespaces.
This all happened in May of 1992 (or somewhere around there). We are currently at 69% capacity. I think we came pretty close, maybe a little short. 1997 will tell.
A (ORACLE rookie) mistake we made back in 1992 was not sizing the associated indexes. That would probably account for our running a little short.
Kurt Jordan
System Administrator
Purdue University Calumet
Hammond IN 46383
219 989 2590
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 12:11:42 -0600
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From: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM>
Subject: Re: catalog fragmentation
Unfortunately, I was referring to the Oracle catalog objects, not user tables. Defragging the catalog tables is not necessarily a simple matter, since if you drop one of the objects used in the parse processing, you will probably never be able to issue any of the SQL statements required to recreate and reload the object.
The fragmentation goes beyond chained rows - basically, the space within an extent is fragmented and not reused after a view$ row is dropped - the total number of rows in this table is not growing appreciably, but the number of extents continues to grow. I need to figure out how to drop/truncate/reload a catalog table without blowing the instance. I have done this (without Oracle consent) on the objauth$ table, but hesitate to do this on a 60 GB wharehouse.
Regards,
Rich Bromberg
Rich Bromberg | dbINTELLECT Technologies, Inc.
Database Consultant | Lakewood, Colo.
| (303) 763-3822
| email: bromberg_at_dbintellect.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:22:45 -0400
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From: Phil Mclean <csdpjm_at_BOGART.DOWLING.EDU>
Subject: Product user Profile
Hello,
My question regards the protuct user profile table.
If I remove the ability for a user to use insert, update, delete in sqlplus through the protuct user profile table, will that cause any problems with the users permissions when accessing the database through SQL*FORMS????
Meaning, will they still be able to insert, update, delete using
SQL*FORMS?
Thanks in advance.
Phil.
If possible, please respond to mcleanp_at_dowling.edu
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:33:30 -0600 Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> Subject: Long data type
I have a basic 'dumb' question -
How does one select a long data type? Since it is not a character type, none of the character functions (substr, etc.) work. What conversion function is available to select the field either through SQL*Plus or PL/SQL. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Rich Bromberg | dbINTELLECT Technologies, Inc.
Database Consultant | Lakewood, Colo.
| (303) 763-3822
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:16:02 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: catalog fragmentation
In-Reply-To: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> "Re: catalog
fragmentation" (Sep 30, 12:11pm)
Rich --
I cannot think of a way to defrag catalog tables which affect the internal workings of the database without doing a full export, dropping and recreating the offending table(s) with the correct storage parameters, and reimporting (or starting up a new instance, resizing the storage for the table(s),and importing, depending on the catalog table). Since it sounds like you have a production system, you may want to apply a fix which will get you safely through this period until you can schedule downtime and do it right. The fix I would suggest would be to modify the next_extent for the base table(s) to be large enough so that you aren't in danger of running out of extents. Then perform your reorg at your convenience (or the next scheduled downtime).
If, however, the table you're talking about isn't one of the tables concerned with tables, tablespaces, columns, or other tables required to perform manipulations (ie., if you're very lucky), you may want to rename the table and create a table with the base table's old name as select * from renamed table (and specify the new storage parameters). That should give you a defragged table to start; but, from the sounds of it, you're going to wind up with this problem again.
I'm interested to hear how you resolve the situation.
Best of luck.
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:40:09 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Long data type
In-Reply-To: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> "Long data type"
(Sep 30, 2:33pm)
Rich --
While you can't do character functions, you can still retrieve the data stored in a long field. Try this:
SQL> select view_name,text from sys.dba_views where view_name='DBA_TABLES';
VIEW_NAME
t.pctfree$, t.pctused$,
t
SQL> set arraysize 1
select u.name, o.name, ts.name, co.name,
t.pctfree$, t.pctused$,
t.initrans, t.maxtrans,
s.iniexts * ts.blocksize, s.extsize * ts.blocksize,
s.minexts, s.maxexts, s.extpct,
decode(t.modified, 0, 'Y', 1, 'N', '?'),
t.rowcnt, t.blkcnt, t.empcnt, t.avgspc, t.chncnt, t.avgrln
from sys.user$ u, sys.ts$ ts, sys.seg$ s, sys.obj$ co, sys.tab$ t, sys.obj$ o
where o.owner# = u.user#
and o.obj# = t.obj#
and t.clu# = co.obj# (+)
and t.ts# = ts.ts#
and t.file# = s.file# (+)
and t.block# = s.block# (+)
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 16:56:51 -0500
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From: Bambi Bellows <bellows_at_RTSG.MOT.COM>
Subject: Re: Long data type
In-Reply-To: Rich Bromberg <bromberg_at_HOBBES.DBINTELLECT.COM> "Long data type"
(Sep 30, 2:33pm)
Rich --
I don't know if you got this (we had a firedrill in the middle of my message to you). In any event, you can select long fields. Try this on for size:
SQL> select view_name,text from sys.dba_views where view_name='DBA_TABLES';
VIEW_NAME
t.pctfree$, t.pctused$,
t
SQL> set arraysize 1
select u.name, o.name, ts.name, co.name,
t.pctfree$, t.pctused$,
t.initrans, t.maxtrans,
s.iniexts * ts.blocksize, s.extsize * ts.blocksize,
s.minexts, s.maxexts, s.extpct,
decode(t.modified, 0, 'Y', 1, 'N', '?'),
t.rowcnt, t.blkcnt, t.empcnt, t.avgspc, t.chncnt, t.avgrln
from sys.user$ u, sys.ts$ ts, sys.seg$ s, sys.obj$ co, sys.tab$ t, sys.obj$ o
where o.owner# = u.user# and o.obj# = t.obj# and t.clu# = co.obj# (+) and t.ts# = ts.ts# and t.file# = s.file# (+) and t.block# = s.block# (+)
Hope this helps!
Bambi.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:35:36 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Andrew W. Kerber" <Andre10272_at_AOL.COM> Subject: Re: Sizing an Oracle7 da...
We are wrestling with the same issue in my company. We have decided that the best bet is to make plenty of space. The problem is that if you do not allocate enough space initially, you will have a serious fragmentation and chaining problem as you add data.
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:40:55 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Andrew W. Kerber" <Andre10272_at_AOL.COM> Subject: Re: catalog fragmentation
With regard to fragmentation, the only way to handle it is to export the table, truncate or drop the table, and import back into a single extent. Had you considered keeping a library of frequently used views for the users to call up, and creating a new one only when necessry?
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 20:54:34 EDT Reply-To: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> Sender: "ORACLE database mailing list." <ORACLE-L_at_SBCCVM.BITNET> From: "Andrew W. Kerber" <Andre10272_at_AOL.COM> Subject: Re: catalog fragment...
I am not an oracle expert, but you might be able to do something like this: find the physical file names and locations of the system tablespaces containing the catalog tables.
make copies of the tables using a select into a new tablespace, making sure that there is enough room in the initial extent.
bring down oracle, delete the fragmented data files, and tell oracle that the copies you made are the real system files. From what the books tell me about the control file, this might be possible. Of course, if I were you I would try it on a practice database first. Let me know if this works.
In the future, you might consider writing a program to call the particular view you need, instead of creating and dropping it each time. Received on Wed Mar 15 1995 - 10:51:50 CST
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