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Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 01:54 Go to next message
Serg.K.
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Hi all!

As far as i know X$ tables are not documented, and there are issues when a single select against x$ table can hung the db.

Is it safe to query x$ tables (x$bh especially) regularly?
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308640 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is safe, as far as i know.
Unless you are going to write a really nasty sql or do updates Smile.
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308641 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It depends on your meaning of safe.
x$ tables are not tables (neither disk nor memory ones), they are call to procedures.
So accessing x$ tables may lead to unpredictible result and side effects on your instance.
Don't use them unless you perfectly know what they do.

Why to want to access x$bh regurlarly? First why not v$bh? And secondly simply why, what is the reason?

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Michel

Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308652 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We are going to install new monitoring system (BMC monitoring for oracle. see bmc.com) .

I've installed it on my Test server, and i noticed that is uses x$bh . To be more accurate, it creates new view called p$bh based on x$bh.
It work O.K. on my test server... But, i have production servers of different versions and on different operation systems...



Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308657 is a reply to message #308652] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Accessing x$bh will take latch so this will lead others to wait.
In addition, with big cache, it is an expensive query.

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Michel
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308664 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Serg.K.
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Michel, Thanks for your answers.

Any query against x$bh will take latch ?

Is there any official documentation where i can read about this??

Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308666 is a reply to message #308664] Tue, 25 March 2008 02:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:
Any query against x$bh will take latch ?

Yes, the header you access should not be modified during the time you access it.

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Is there any official documentation where i can read about this??

Of course not.
X$ tables don't exist for you. Your only legal access is V$.

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Michel
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308740 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 05:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Serg.K.
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Yes, the header you access should not be modified during the time you access it.


If i understand you right :
All x$ tables are latch affected. V$ views based on X$ tables are not?




Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308753 is a reply to message #308740] Tue, 25 March 2008 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, this is why you should use them from time to time and not every 15 seconds (for instance).

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Michel
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308899 is a reply to message #308628] Tue, 25 March 2008 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Serg.K.
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Thanks for the explanation.

So, V$ system views are not like user created views. If I'll create new view based on any X$ table it it will be latch affected?

But, why? How does it works?
Re: Is it safe to query X$ ? [message #308961 is a reply to message #308899] Wed, 26 March 2008 01:38 Go to previous message
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Because:
Quote:
x$ tables are not tables (neither disk nor memory ones), they are call to procedures.


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Michel
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