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Articles on sswug.org [message #141173] Fri, 07 October 2005 06:30 Go to next message
Frank Naude
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Registered: April 1998
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Hi,

Are any of you payed members at sswug.org?

Looks like their business model is to copy content from sites like orafaq.com and make people pay to view it. For example:

You need to register and pay at http://www.sswug.org/see/25508
to view this article http://www.orafaq.com/node/91

Best regards.

Frank
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #141288 is a reply to message #141173] Sat, 08 October 2005 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maaher
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Hmm, never heard of it. Is it really a paysite? It seems that subscription is free. Have you contacted them yet?

MHE
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #141327 is a reply to message #141288] Sun, 09 October 2005 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank Naude
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Subscription is free, but you cannot view the OraFAQ content without paying.

We've politely requested them to remove the articles in question months ago. I'm not sure what can be done next.

Best regards.

Frank
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #141686 is a reply to message #141173] Tue, 11 October 2005 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smartin
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You could put two links on the front of this site. One would say, "click here to view the content". The other would say, "click here to view the exact same content, except pay money to do so". The second link would point to sswug.
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #141763 is a reply to message #141686] Wed, 12 October 2005 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank Naude
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LOL, I guess that would be the best way to handle the situation.

Best regards.

Frank
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #141900 is a reply to message #141763] Wed, 12 October 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barbara Boehmer
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I recall that Tom Kyte once had a similar problem where some web site was either trying to charge money to view his code without his permission or implying that it was their code. As I recall, he contacted them and was successful at stopping them. You might ask Tom what tactics he used. I imagine that there is appropriate legal action that can be taken and once you tell someone that you will take such specific legal action if they do not stop, that should put an end to it. I imagine Tom has the advantage of having some legal staff available to Oracle for consultation.

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Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #143280 is a reply to message #141900] Wed, 19 October 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rogger
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Registered: October 2005
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Frank,

I am a new member of this forum. I share your concern of other sites taking the information from orafaq and charging it. As a member of this forum I think its also our responsibilty in helping you in this need and hope all other members shares the same. Please let all of us know how we can help you in a collective way.
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #144917 is a reply to message #141173] Fri, 28 October 2005 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Callan
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SSWUG doesn't claim ownership of the articles, and there is nothing stopping you from charging others a fee to access your Web site. It is no different than doing a Google search and seeing a link to an article here (or elsewhere). You don't pay for access to Google (advertisers pay to make Google run), but you do have to pay for access to SSWUG. Or looked at another way, how is it any different than a professional journal including a bibliography which includes references to public domain material?
Re: Articles on sswug.org [message #144931 is a reply to message #144917] Sat, 29 October 2005 00:49 Go to previous message
Frank
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The huge difference (in my opinion) is that no self-respecting journal would copy an article word for word. They would at least put some effort in it themselves.

Frank
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