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docs.oracle.com [message #627352] Tue, 11 November 2014 04:18 Go to next message
John Watson
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Have you been to docs.oracle.com today? I get this screen named "Oracle Help Centre" with lots of big tiles with silly patterns and only after loads of clicks can I actually get to the docs, which are now presented in a kind-of child like display that makes it really slow to read and navigate around. Does Larry think that I am still in the Kindergarten, and can't read anything unless it is in big type with pretty pictures?

OK, I know that I am on old man who thinks "it is new, therefore it is bad" but I never have I been so glad that I had the foresight to download all the documentation sets to my PC.

Thank you, Uncle Oracle.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #627357 is a reply to message #627352] Tue, 11 November 2014 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cookiemonster
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Far more annoying than what they've done to the layout is what they've done to the search.
When I type instr in the search box I expect the main instr page in the SQL Language reference to be top of the list, it isn't even on the first page any more.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #627358 is a reply to message #627357] Tue, 11 November 2014 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And now I've looked at the top page, yes that's rubbish.
I always had it bookmarked down at the level of the particular DB release I wanted.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #627360 is a reply to message #627352] Tue, 11 November 2014 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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+1

Searching for a specific book is now painful.
You can send your opinion, there is a form that appears on the left. At least once as now I have no more it, or maybe they remove it after too much "bring back our documentation" message.
At least they should let the "All books" tab/link (this is the case for 10g doc, why not for the other versions?).

I hate those tools which want to be smart and are just wasting our time.

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Re: docs.oracle.com [message #627373 is a reply to message #627360] Tue, 11 November 2014 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Me too. I just wasted over half an hour trying to double-check on the syntax for the TABLE_EXISTS_ACTION Datapump clause. In the event I found Google to be more helpful Sad
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #627374 is a reply to message #627360] Tue, 11 November 2014 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

"bring our documentation"


Bring back tahiti! Smile
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628116 is a reply to message #627374] Thu, 20 November 2014 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any one have a clue where they've hidden the utilities guide?
I want to look something up on datapump and I'm getting precisely nowhere.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628118 is a reply to message #628116] Thu, 20 November 2014 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Watson
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11.2?
https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e22490/toc.htm
You have to click on Browse Our cloud Bookshelf. Obvious.

Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628119 is a reply to message #628116] Thu, 20 November 2014 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've bookmarked 10gR2 utilities guide, so - if it suits your needs, here you go.

BTW what they did is simply ridiculous.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628120 is a reply to message #628116] Thu, 20 November 2014 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gazzag
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I had the same problem and found Google to be a better front-end.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628127 is a reply to message #628120] Thu, 20 November 2014 05:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cookiemonster
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John and LF - thanks. Now I know about the bookshelf link life is easier (my orginal link to 11g docs pointed to a level below the page with the bookshelf link)
gazzag - yup, I can find the utilities guide in the first page of google results. Probably should have thought of that, but at the same time I assumed they must have left a link to it somewhere

You have to wonder if there was team of very bored developers at oracle - there was nothing wrong with the original and this downgrade is worse in every way.
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #628128 is a reply to message #628120] Thu, 20 November 2014 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laughing

Re: docs.oracle.com [message #629324 is a reply to message #627352] Sun, 07 December 2014 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anyone know where are the links to download the whole documentation (E50529-01 zip).
I have found the OTN page but the only thing it gives is the name of the file and no link to it.

Re: docs.oracle.com [message #629325 is a reply to message #629324] Sun, 07 December 2014 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Watson
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It works for me, man - this,
http://docs.oracle.com/database/121.zip
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #629326 is a reply to message #629325] Sun, 07 December 2014 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many thanks, it does not from here, now with the direct link I can download it.

Re: docs.oracle.com [message #629327 is a reply to message #629326] Sun, 07 December 2014 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Watson
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Check my IP address - I'm nowhere hear you at the moment Smile

Though I'm still mentally in your timezone Sad
Re: docs.oracle.com [message #630179 is a reply to message #628120] Mon, 22 December 2014 03:17 Go to previous message
John Watson
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gazzag wrote on Thu, 20 November 2014 10:51
I had the same problem and found Google to be a better front-end.
I've just come across another bit of lunacy: nowhere on docs.oracle.com is there a link to the Master Index for 12.x. At least, not where I can find it. I'm downloading the docs zip file again, I hope it's included.


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