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The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #459489] Sun, 06 June 2010 02:27 Go to next message
m_arafa
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I am a fresh graduate (not a computer science) , and I have two options :-

The first: Getting a job as Oracle Developer

The second: Or, Entering a Software Engineering Institute (9 Months) , that have the following program ...

(1) Foundation Module (3 months) :-
1- Operating Systems Fundamentals
2- Fundamentals of Database
3- Introduction to Computer Networks
4- TCP/IP
5- Marketing
6- Problem Solving Techniques
7- Introduction to Software Engineering
8- Presentation Skills
9- Technical Writing
10- Research Skills
11- WinXP
12- Unix
13- C Programming Language
14- Data Structures Using C
15- Object Oriented
16- C++
17- Introduction to Web Technologies

(2) Focus Module (4 months) :- .. select a department and the field ..
[Oracle Department]
* Functional Tracks
SAP ERP Financial Track FI
SAP ERP Material Management Track MM
Oracle ERP financial Track
Oracle Supply Chain Management (SCM) Track: Logistics and Discrete Manufacturing
Oracle ERP Human Resource (HR)
* Technical Tracks
Oracle Applications Database Administration
Data warehousing

[Java Department]
1- Oracle PL/SQL
2- Java Programming
3- Advanced Java Programming
4- Remote Method Invocation (RMI)
5- Object Oriented Analysis & Design using UML
6- Swing Components & Java 2D
7- JavaScript & Dynamic HTML
8- XML & Java API for XML Processing
9- Developing using Servlets & JSP
10- Advanced Servlets & JSP
11- Asynchronous JavaScript & XML (AJAX)
12- Struts Framework
13- Developing using Java Micro Edition (Java ME)
14- Enterprise Java Beans & Java Persistence API (EJB & JPA)
15- Java Web Services
16- Introduction to Design Patterns
17- Java Server Faces (JSF)
18- AJAX Enabled JSF Components
19- Spring MVC
20- Frameworks for Enterprise Applications
21- Overview on JavaFX
22- Service Oriented Architecture & Business Process Execution Language (SOA & BPEL)
23- Spring Framework
24- Introduction to Hibernate
25- Frameworks for Enterprise Applications
26- Overview on JavaFX
27- Java Server Faces (JSF)
28- Symbian Basics
29- Advanced Java ME
30- C++ for Symbian S60 Platform

[Other Departments]
...

(3) Assessment Module (2 months):-
* Practical application of the information learnt is achieved
through supervised applied projects in selected areas of interest.

=========================================================

Graduates Profile

[Oracle Department]

* The graduate of Functional Tracks would work as:
ERP Implementer-Analyst in the related business area (i.e. financial, SCM and HR): Meets the customers and collect business requirements. Determines gaps between user business processes and Oracle Applications and documents results in a gap analysis report. Develops strategies and functional specifications for data migration, interfaces between legacy systems and Oracle Applications, and custom extensions.

* The graduate of Oracle Applications Database Administration Track would work as:

> Database Administrator: Administrate and Manage database servers by designing, enhancing and maintaining databases. Set the backup policy of the database server and do the regular backups to ensure database recovery in case of failure. Tuning the performance of Oracle database server. Administrating Oracle Real Application Cluster (RAC).

> Application Server Administrator: Install, configure, monitor, backup and reconfigure the application server. Deploy different applications on the server.

> Oracle Apps DBA: Installing, patching and upgrading the Oracle Database server, Oracle E-business suite. Configure and administrate Oracle E-business suite.

> The graduate of Data warehousing Track Would Work as:

> Data Warehousing Specialist: Meet the decision makers and collect business requirements. Design the data warehousing logical model. Implement "Extract Transform Load"- ETL processes and methodologies. Develop Business Intelligence reports.

[Java Department]
The graduate will be a Java Developer.
...

there are other departments , but i concentrate to Oracle and Java Only...
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Then my friends, What is your opinion ? (The Job or the Institute) ....
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #459517 is a reply to message #459489] Sun, 06 June 2010 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Littlefoot
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I guess that choice shouldn't be made upon MY opinion, but YOURS. What do you find interesting? What would you want to do? It might be opposite from what I think. So, why would you make your life miserable, just because I told you so?
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #459549 is a reply to message #459517] Sun, 06 June 2010 23:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
m_arafa
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If you were me ..
Are you enter the job or that institute ... Are the program of the institute more exciting Or I concentrate to the job and experience in the first days ....
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #459566 is a reply to message #459549] Mon, 07 June 2010 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I had the choice, I guess that I'd first take the second option (Entering a Software Engineering Institute (9 months)) and then, hopefully, Get a job as Oracle Developer.
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #459605 is a reply to message #459566] Mon, 07 June 2010 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
m_arafa
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thanks Littlefoot...

My Friends ... I want more opinions ...
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #460400 is a reply to message #459605] Fri, 11 June 2010 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank
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I totally agree with Littlefoot that this should be your decision, especially since the two are not really related. The job is Oracle specific, whereas the training looks to go into a different direction. So it all depends on what you want to do in 5 years from now.

If you actually CAN get a job as an Oracle developer and you want to be an Oracle developer, you will be learning all you need on the job.
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #460779 is a reply to message #460400] Mon, 14 June 2010 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
m_arafa
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Hello..

First , I am not a computer science graduate as I said before ..

* If I go into the job (oracle developer)..
Early, I will gain more experience, money and respect...

* If I go into the institute .. after the studying , I will start from scratch to gain that features (experience,money and respect ..) and I will lost the job (oracle developer) and may be go to another field after finishing the study because the graduates of the institute will be :-

In Java Department : will be Java Developer

Or

In Oracle Department : will be :-
* ERP Implementer-Analyst
* Or, Database Administrator
* Or, Application Server Administrator
* Or, Oracle Apps DBA
* Or, Data Warehousing Specialist
...

Or

Other Departments ..


But,it will open more jobs ,solid knowledge, more information of the latest technology ...

what do you think ?
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #461372 is a reply to message #460779] Thu, 17 June 2010 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank
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I think you have gotten all the sane advice there is.
Sounds like you have no clue as to what you want to be when you grow up, so join the army!
Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #461388 is a reply to message #461372] Thu, 17 June 2010 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:
so join the army!


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Re: The Job Or the Software Engineering Institute (9 Months)..... [message #461419 is a reply to message #461388] Thu, 17 June 2010 17:20 Go to previous message
m_arafa
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Ok, but I postpond from the army

I just collect more opinions to not regret ..
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