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Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446169] Fri, 05 March 2010 15:41 Go to next message
DJMDASHA
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These are ALL Oracle University Books - spiral bound.
Price includes shipping in continental US.

Oracle Payables 11i - two volumes - $50.00
Oracle 10G RAC - three volumes - $250.00
Oracle R11i Navigating Oracle Applications - $50.00
Oracle R11i System Administration - $50.00
Oracle iDS Forms: Build Internet Applications I - three volumne set (2001) - $100.00
R12 Oracle E-Business Sutie Essentials for implementors - Volumne 1 & 2 - $350.00
R12 -Oracle:Install, Patch and Maintain Oracle Applications - two volume set - $350.00
migrating 10.7 to R11i for Oracle Payables - $35.00
R12 Oracle Manufacturing Functional Foundation - three volume set - $350.00

Also have some 8i Database, 8i Tuning and 8i Backup and Recovery, Designer 2000 books if anyone is interested.

Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446385 is a reply to message #446169] Mon, 08 March 2010 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank
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Are you sure you are allowed to sell these?
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446451 is a reply to message #446385] Mon, 08 March 2010 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJMDASHA
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Yes I am.
If you don't believe me, you can also buy Oracle University books at Amazon.com and other sites.
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446852 is a reply to message #446451] Wed, 10 March 2010 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The fact that amazon has the right to sell them does not prove that YOU have it too.

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Michel
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446860 is a reply to message #446169] Wed, 10 March 2010 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJMDASHA
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Oracle University now provides pdfs or e-books which are not for sale. They have your name water marked on them
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446862 is a reply to message #446169] Wed, 10 March 2010 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJMDASHA
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This are original books not copies or reproductions.
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446864 is a reply to message #446860] Wed, 10 March 2010 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They now do that because many violates the terms of use of their book and resell them.

You have something like that in your book:
Quote:
No part of this work may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage or retireval system, without the prior written permission of the copyrighted owner and the publisher.


You cannot transmit them and so even less sell them.

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Michel

[Updated on: Wed, 10 March 2010 13:25]

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Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446952 is a reply to message #446864] Thu, 11 March 2010 01:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Transmit is not the same as transfer.
IANAL, but the text you quote does not prohibit selling of the said item.
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446957 is a reply to message #446952] Thu, 11 March 2010 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you mean that "transmit" is one to many and "transfer" is one to one? My english is not good enough.

Maybe the other topic about his CD is clearer:
http://www.orafaq.com/forum/mv/msg/154954/446865/102589/#msg_446865

Anyway, it was just a warning about being within or outside the law.

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Michel

[Updated on: Thu, 11 March 2010 01:36]

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Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446960 is a reply to message #446957] Thu, 11 March 2010 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank
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Hm, non-native speaker here too, so not sure if we are the proper persons to discuss this Smile
I associate transmit with audio/video. Air the contents so others can receive. This means (and I think that this is important) that the physical object stays with the original holder.
Selling however would transfer the object to the new holder.
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #446983 is a reply to message #446169] Thu, 11 March 2010 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well as a native English speaker I agree with Frank.
If you're not allowed to sell it there will be an explicit clause saying so. The quoted clause just tells you you can't make copies of the CD or any of the information on the CD.
That said I'm sure there is another clause somewhere saying that you can't sell it.
Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #448614 is a reply to message #446864] Wed, 24 March 2010 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:
Michel Cadot wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 13:25]
Quote:
No part of this work may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage or retireval system, without the prior written permission of the copyrighted owner and the publisher.
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Just a clarification as i see many moderators getting hyper when someone is selling stuff.

You cannot recreate : as in photocopy, scan images, record on tape the printed material.
You cannot transmit a CD/DVD : as in copy to another CD/DVD, create image, use on multiple systems that do not belong to the owner.
You cannot create a printed material/electronic object using direct or quoted inputs from the original material.
Books/Electronic material purchased in some countries is not for sale in other countries. (For example, books manufactured in India cannot be sold outside India)

If you do sell a book, you are not permitted to keep any record or copy from that book. But i guess you are not authorised to re-sell a used CD.

[Updated on: Wed, 24 March 2010 07:08]

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Re: Oracle University Books for Sales (merged 3) [message #448774 is a reply to message #448614] Thu, 25 March 2010 02:51 Go to previous message
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The thing is that books that are used in courses are not always subject to the same restrictions as regular books. If something is written specifically for the purpose of using it as course material it might be forbidden to sell it.
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